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Kim Clement's Big E Prophecy
Many people are visiting this blog by googling Kim Clement's Big E Prophecy. So, I've went to Kim's website. From May to the present, I've compliled the prophecies concerning the Big E. There are definitley stirrings in the government and the news concerning Corn Ethanol or E-85 and Cellulosic Ethanol.

May 22, 2005
"For the Spirit of God says, do you realize that there is a marked moment in time in the summer where there will be a divine transference of masses of amounts of money? Keep your eye on the gold. Keep your eye on that one substance. Also keep your eyes open for you shall see things changing with petroleum. You shall see things changing with something new that shall come forth. Invest into it says the Spirit of the Lord. You'd better listen some of you investors. This is not petroleum. This is not oil. This is something else that is safer and God wants to share a secret tonight. Go and study it. I don't have the words. The Spirit of the Lord has hidden it from me. But He tells me there's something other than petroleum or gas or whatever you call it, oil, that's coming forth that's gonna be used. Invest in it for it will bring some of you millions of dollars within a 14 month period says the Lord. It begins with an "e". That's all I've got. Now if anybody wants to become very rich, get ready because the stock market's gonna open up. NASDAQ is opening up. There are things opening up in the public places that God says I'm gonna pour out and give to you what rightfully belongs to you if you want it!"

September 3, 2005
"What took place in New Orleans caused America to go into even a greater crisis. It's not the oil it's the refining of the oil that's the problem. And therefore we don't have time and that's what it is. God said remember what I told you about the big "E". For those that don't know it, God said there's a big "E" that's being brought forth. Not petroleum, this is going to be a new source. God said they are going to have to press in to get that energy or that source to this Nation. In other words they can not rely on the source or the natural resources. They can not rely upon oil. There is something else, the government of the USA is about to release that, and release it it shall. It's going to be a fantastic thing. All I know is I heard it in the secret place. This is going to force the United States of America, where they are at the point where they will not rely on the Middle East anymore. There will be a source that they will have within this Nation. It shall come from the garbage, it will come from the ground, it will come from paper, it will come from bugs eating a bunch of stuff. I'm seeing a bunch of bugs eating a bunch of stuff. God said this is going to be the craziest thing. They are going to say, Wow This is being wasted The creatures are eating what could be used to cause our engines to work and our vehicles to move. I'm seeing this bunch of bugs eating this stuff and there it is, that's it right there. When this happens, the United States shall rise above the wealth of the Middle East in terms of oil, and it shall take over, and they shall say now take your oil and shove it. This is the time for America to press in..."

September 17, 2005
"In this Nation a prophetic sound shall come, and as a result of it you will not need the oil of the Middle East. There is a new energy that is coming forth. The prophet knows it as the Big "E" but knows nothing else. A new form of energy is coming forth, America is pioneering it and it shall take you from a trillion dollar deficit to no deficit whatsoever within a six-year period says the Spirit of God. And the Middle East shall say you still need oil. But America shall say no longer from you, for O Israel O Israel what is hidden shall be revealed says the Lord. America rejoice for this is your day says the Lord..."

November 14, 2005
" There is a source of energy that's coming out of this Nation where they will not rely on the oil of the Middle East. God gave me a revelation about the "Big E", that something's going to come from the ground, from the bugs. There are literally billions of dollars to be made in the next few years by Christian people if they would be wise and they would be perceptive. God is going to provide a way for you to invest and to make millions overnight. Take that as a key and a sign, it's yours..."

December 3, 2005
"In America, a new source of energy. America the pioneer. Coming from beneath their feet. That bugs have enjoyed shall become a major source because along with discovering this shall another great discovery come around the month of April of next year, between February and April. That will be what will swing America to the point of never having to rely upon the Middle East again, ever, ever, says the Lord..."

December 31, 2005
"But a surprise is upon you, a great surprise from the garbage, from insects, shall come from beneath your feet a new source of energy. Not ethanol only, something else shall come out of it, says the Lord, discovered and in the next 18 months I will show My servants, the prophets, the places to invest and some shall say, "this is an Einsteinian craze" but it shall come from something that Einstein was discovering and bringing forth, but before his time, therefore I had to remove him. This is the time where discovery shall bring a new source of energy and it shall start in this Nation, says the Lord. Do not say, "Einstein, what about God?" God said, I worked wonders but now some of the theories shall become fact and God said, it shall be so surprising that people shall say, "what shall we do?" America - no deficit! America - no deficit! And in your White House I will keep for the next three terms a Christian at the helm, says the Lord..."

January 29, 2006
"In this summer, opportunity will be created for millions of people in the kingdom to be debt free. For God said, there is new source of energy that I am raising up. This Nation's economy is about to change for the better. God said, people will say, "it's impossible." But God says, you will look to the middle east no more. In fact, they will come to you, why? Because God says, I am turning it around. This is the year of pay back, says the Lord. This is the year for Me to pay back what the enemy stole away. If you believe it, grab a hold of it because it is coming to you..."
posted by Mandy @ 9:04 AM  

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  • At 9:37 PM, Blogger Mark D said…

    Wow, all that is very interesting!

  • At 12:36 PM, Blogger Stephen said…

    It is interesting...but I have concerns about Kim Clement. That's all I'll say.

  • At 3:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


  • At 8:14 AM, Blogger Mandy said…

    I think so. President Bush is talking about cellulosic ethanol which is made from plant and other type waste. Its a little different from corn ethanol or E-85 which is already in use.

  • At 11:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


  • At 2:44 PM, Blogger renee said…

    I have been tracking this ethanol thing since Kim first spoke of it. Right now there is major hype in the markets about ethanol. For example I own PEIX which is 63% increase since Feb.

    I believe the Einstein thing is refering to hydro-nuclear energy. The government is about to spend 1.6 million dollars to research.

    The bug part I believe has to do with a genetically engineered microbe that was recently developed that can eat up almost anything and turn it into ethanol.

  • At 3:03 PM, Blogger Mandy said…

    **To anonymous...I'm just now checking out ECALENE. Took me awhile to google and find out that it is an energy company! Cool. Thanks for sharing.
    **Hi Renee! Thanks for that information. I can tell you have done your homework!
    Wow! I can't wait to see how God pans all of this out. I believe there will definitley be a breakthrough, and hope God leads kingdom people to invest. Keep us posted on your findings!

  • At 7:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

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  • At 10:27 AM, Blogger Mandy said…

    Wow! This is an amazing process. Do you work for this company? I do believe these prophecies, and think this is a gift from the Lord. Many people are searching for the answers you have shared here. Do you mind if I post this in a new post? Thanks so much.

  • At 12:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hi Mandy, I have sent you an e-mail. Please advise if you do not receive.

  • At 9:05 AM, Blogger Mandy said…

    Hey! I did get your email. I will be getting back with you, soon. I have my Papa's funeral today, so it will be after that. Thanks so much!

  • At 9:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Actually, Ecalene is the product. Power Energy Fuels Inc. is the company who holds patents for the accelerated production of this unique fuel. Ecalene is a registered additive for fuels now, but immediate plans are to bring it to the direct use fuel market asap. It has an octane rating of 124 as opposed to ethanols 104. It is a drop in replacement for diesel in some popular diesel engines, and a car can be converted to run on it for about $200. Approximate costs to manufacture are in the 79 cents per gallon range. Feed sources are ideally forest sluff, pine cones & needles, tree bark, salt cedar, switch grasses, and basically anything that contains a carbon molecule. Manure, sewage, and large landfills are also candidates. The list of feed supply possibilities is quite diverse. Large scale production is being planned as we speak, with hopes for the first plant by the end of summer. Although investment is not presently solicited, opportunities are available to the sincere!

  • At 2:16 PM, Blogger renee said…

    Yah I checked out the ecalene thing and I think it's too early to really get excited about.
    The thing is that no one has heard of them. Power Energy Fules is not publically traded either.

    There are many other more well known company's out there trying to do the same thing--so unless they go public are get some hug cintract from the government we will have to wait and see.

  • At 2:16 PM, Blogger renee said…

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  • At 2:19 PM, Blogger renee said…

    err- technically difficulties.
    sorry for the major typos too.
    " are get some hug cintract" = or get some huge contract

    also in the last month I have found several articles like this one

    (this is what I believe is the bugs eating garbage part of the profecy)

  • At 11:23 AM, Blogger renee said…

    this company is making ethanol fom paper waste!

    (just like the prophecy)

  • At 8:58 PM, Blogger beth said…

    i also have studied this since the beginning and own PEIX,
    it all seems to fit and the rest is on faith a little.
    the company is very strong and i can see it "discovering"
    whatever it is. but i am ready to switch if something else comes up.
    as far as i can tell einsteins last thing he was looking for was the unified field theory , but not exactly sure how that works in not being a physicist.
    everyone i tell about this jumps in with both feet, even if i expected them to be sceptical.
    i chalk it up to the Holy Spirit.

  • At 10:46 PM, Blogger Mandy said…

    Hey beth and renee...this is really exciting to hear how the Holy Spirit is leading people concerning the prophecies! For me, I know God is powerful, good and merciful, and I do believe a Great Awakening is coming to this land...healing to the land, too. A resource to bring glory to His name and spread light into the dark places.

    Thanks again for sharing. I want to post and update on the Big E with this information, so be on the lookout!

  • At 2:09 AM, Blogger mhop said…

    Hi Mandy,
    I am a sold out layed down worshipper of Jesus also. I love your blog.
    I began with the postings on the "BIG E" which I am researching.

    I was deeply touched with how God is using HIS BODY to HEAL eachother in your post (the shining lady).

    I did not have a mother and had an angry/grief stuck father stuck in religion but mad at God for taking his wife(my mother) I know those tears of healing and Praise the Lord for your beautiful way of sharing them.
    God bless you

  • At 12:18 PM, Blogger Mandy said…

    Hi Kay,
    Welcome and thank you so much for your kind words. It is amazing how God works...everything out for good! And we all have such testimonies to tell of His healing and encounters of us personally. How that builds us up!

    I hope to keep posting. I am in a new season--and extremely busy, but I'll get settled into a good routine, soon. Lots of good things to share.

    I am blessed that you said hello. I have made some wonderful friends through blogging, and its always exciting to meet someone new. Feel free to email me, too, if you like.


  • At 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There is a company called Biomass Investment Group or B.I.G. for short which makes ethanol from a prodcut called E-grass. I'm not sure this is the company Kim Clement is talking about. Clement once stated it was a western company and BIG is located in Florida. Anyway, it's worth a look.

  • At 10:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The big "E" apparently stands not only for ethanol but for Einstien.I ran across this article and you can make your own decision on this company;

  • At 7:01 PM, Blogger oak said…

    One of Kim's last prophecies was that in September and October, the Lord would make available the company from the West to invest in. Anyone have any new ideas?

  • At 4:50 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Its ECALENE without a doubt.

  • At 2:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    A company from the West??? As in "Far West" like Pacific Ethanol located in California or just "West" as in Ecalene from Colorado? Hmmmm...

  • At 2:54 PM, Blogger tdaman said…

    Ecalene fits every detail of the prophecy depending on how you define "West". Apparently there is clear evidence from outside sources that Ecalene is for real and now Power Energy Fuels in Colorado is in its final stage proving how cost effective it is to produce in global quantities. Apparently 1 ton of wood waste taken from a forest fire produces 120 gallons of Ecalene!

  • At 3:02 PM, Blogger tdaman said…

    The quote and link below actually reference the type of ethanol as Ecalene.

    "The Wisconsin plant will utilize 200,000 gallons per day of cow manure to produce two million gallons per year of ethanol."

  • At 8:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Kim said Pacific West, not just West. However he said Pacific West there is a place to invest - the tree ... So it doesn't mean that the place is in the Pacific West, just for Pacific West to invest in a place having to do with The Tree - which is being shown again.
    Ecalane has no way to invest in. Same for the Hydrogen thing.

  • At 8:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I just learned that Panda Ethanol Inc. announced in Sept. that it planned to merged with Cirrarcor. The merger took place a few weeks ago and the new company name, Panda Ethanol Inc. has broken ground in order to open up more refinery plants in the west--in Hereford, Texas. It is projected that the new facilities will represent the largest bio-mass fueled ethanol plant in the United States. Please share basic investing steps to begin the investing process as this is a company that trades over the counter.

  • At 10:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What is the Tree that Kim Clement talked about ? How is the tree and ethanol related ?

  • At 2:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ok I'm not sure why it calls me Anonymous but anyway my name is Sam. My email is:

    Kim did mention “Pacific West” in one of his prophecies and in another he said "looking again to the west". Well, Pacific Ethanol (PEIX) is building Ethanol Production plants on the West cost

    Another one of Kim's prophecies, I'm sure was referring to Bill Gates. It says..."Watch now, watch now as I show you one of the men that have controlled the power of the internet and controlled the power of computers. I will show him something and it shall be a sign to you," says the Lord of Hosts. "PC, PC," God said, "please listen to Me: I will reveal it to him. It shall be a revelation."

    Well Bill Gates has invested 84 million into Pacific Ethanol Inc. I thought that must be the company to invest in but their website says they use corn to make their ethanol and says nothing about the new Cellulosic Ethanol Production method, so now I’m not sure. What do you think?

  • At 11:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ethanol, Pacific makes sense but the tree part is missing. 'This is the quote : God said, I will show you the tree again and you shall invest for it is my desire ....' You are right PEIX uses corn so there is a piece missing to the puzzle. Note it says show you the tree AGAIN. why again ?

  • At 11:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Is there enough Corn in the USA to produce enough ETHENOL for all the engine to crank? The answer is NO.

    Hydrogen fuels? Do you think we are ready to carry hydrogen fuels in the cars and trucks on the road? Imagine a small accident can kill too many people, destroy buildings and roads beacause of hydrogen explossion.

    Do you think it is high Alcohol based, such as Ethenol, Methenol, Beutenol, Exenol, Proponol etc. I will say NO.

    I can go on and go on about our studies. My boss pay me and a group of people to studdy this. I would say, Pray and Pray, seek God's face. He is waiting to tell you.

  • At 2:44 PM, Anonymous Rob said…

    Kim specifically said its more than ethanol. So, what about Steorn? They will be licensing their technology, called Orbo, to other companies. Their technology apprently creates free energy out of thin air. According to their website, this technology could power everything from cell phones, to cars to homes.

    They are currently having scientists validate their claims. They took out a big ad last year in 'The Economist' to get scientist to put thier technology to the test.

    Check them out at:

    What does everyone else think about Steorn?

    O that the Lord would just dip me in kerosene and set me ablaze that I may burn for him

  • At 1:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well it's been a year since these messages were posted. I just ran across them. Has there been any developments?

  • At 7:43 AM, Anonymous Michael said…

    I've prayed about this Big E investment and have followed the progress of this and have actively invested since 1998 and have noticed trends in stocks and during the ethanol hype PEIX and XNL (formerly XTHN) skyrocketed more than any other stocks in that industry.

    This is a good indication of future permanent spikes...

    I think PEIX or XNL will be the two companies which will make 5,000 10,000 and 20,000 dollar investmentors, Kim Clement talked about, into millionaires...

    These companies and many others will take hold of this Ecalene product/technology, which was developed at the Western Research Insitute and mass produce it...

    PEIX and XNL will possibly quickly adapt to produce different types of biomass fuels such as Ecalene...

    The Big E I think is referring to E85, which will become E "whatever". It's obviously 85 percent ethanol now, but that can change to Ecalene, Methane or whatever, as the alternative fuel technology developes.

    For instance just as we have 3 different fuel octanes to choose from now, so may we have different types of biomass fuels to choose from in the future...

    I've put a mixture of E85 and gas 50/50 in my bullet bike and it runs like a dream, although it could damage certain parts so I stopped using it until they come out with something not so corrosive..

    XNL has stated that they plan on processing Florida citrus waste into ethanol, so if they are flexable enough to process citrus pulp and peels they should be able to process other waste materials.

    I'm personally going with XNL because it's $2.32 a share verses 16.37 cents a share for PEIX.

    Two high flying stocks, which come to mind, which I've followed, are EBAY and GOOG. They've both hit highs in the 3 and 4 hundred dollar range.

    Kim said the energy stock craze will be bigger than the tech stock craze.

    I've prayed about PEIX and think it may hit a high of around 700 to 800 dollars a share, and XNL may hit a high of 500 or 600 dollars a share.

    If you do the math there is more money to be made in XNL than PEIX, but both are equally safe and good investments.

    I'm a member of the LDS church and the LDS church has over 900,000 dollars invested in PEIX..

    Bill Gates obviously picked PEIX, so i'm sure it will, and is poised to be a leader in the alternative fuel industry.

    I have a time frame in which these stocks may begin to climb.

    June for XNL and July for PEIX.

    We need to have our money in them by then I'm pretty sure...

    Kim Clement said that we will see these Big E companies in the fall

    Video link of one of Kim Clement's prophecies concerning this:

    VSE (Verisun), AVR (Aventine Energy) and USBE (U.S. Bioenergy)are also very good investments. GE is investing or looking to invest in these mpanies..

    Unless something else developes, I'm going with XNL, and am putting as much money in as I can in June and will probably pull out in December when stocks tend to spike, but will reinvest when it goes down again after the hype in the fall of this year, which Kim talks about in the UTUBE video..

    He says that we will say "there it is, there it is" in the fall...

  • At 1:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The big E is something so simple. I am not allowed to say what it is but it has nothing to do with any kind of liquid or gas. It's comming I promise you!
    Soon, very soon, just a little while longer. All will say God was the only one that could have given this idea to mankind!

  • At 5:05 PM, Anonymous Static said…

    until just recently i thought the most likely candidate was cellulose ethanol but this just happened about a week ago and it's a trip!:

    the name and location of this lab is significant because kim said the discovery would come from the washington area and because the name contains the words "pacific" and "west". not a perfect match (kim didn't mention the "north" part) but still pretty amazing imho.

    the pacific northwest national lab (PNNL) has found a way to convert glucose into something called HMF that can be used to produce some plastics and fuels that petroleum is currently used for! i've read that it can be converted into diesel but i haven't read that it can be converted into gasoline.

    this is great because it ties in the tree and garbage thing. trees and a lot of garbage are made of cellulose which can be broken down into glucose. this also may tie in the bugs kim mentioned because enzymes from the bacteria in termites are capable of breaking the cellulose down into glucose.

    i don't know where einstein comes in but there is a lot of chemistry here that is not understood yet so who knows.

    i think this is a better candidate than ethanol because it may be a complete substitute for petroleum. that would require NO changes to existing vehicles and could happen within kim's time frame. ethanol would require that vehicles be converted to flex fuel which i think would be impractical.

    battelle is the non-profit organization that runs PNNL and other labs. it looks like they license all their technology out to for-profit companies. so they'll probably license this out to one or more companies at some point.

    so once they do and the company licensing it has an economical way to convert cellulose->hmf->gasoline, then that could be the place to invest.

  • At 9:01 PM, Anonymous Static said…

    I've been giving this a lot of thought. here are some of my comments about a few of kim's prophecies. sorry about the lack of proper tabbing to organize this.

    nov 14 05 God gave me a revelation about the "Big E", that something's going to come from the ground, from the bugs. There are literally billions of dollars to be made in the next few years by Christian people if they would be wise and they would be perceptive. God is going to provide a way for you to invest and to make millions overnight. Take that as a key and a sign, it's yours.

    ... "make millions overnight" ...
    sounds like a really successful IPO to me. if it is not an IPO, then the rapid gain in the value of the stock (i assume this prophecy refers to buying stock in a company) might catch many people off guard and so the way to make millions overnight wouldn't be provided to everyone, only those who are fast enough. i don't think god is planning on making it so complicated for us. most christians aren't hardcore daytraders. if we were talking about the value of the stock rising over a period of months and making people millions, then he wouldn't have said "overnight". so that's why i think it's an IPO.

    besides, in another prophecy, kim said that god would "raise up" a company and allow us to have access to it. to me this suggests that the company is small or new and is not already "raised up". and if it is small or new, it may not be publicly traded yet. i mean, why would god need to "allow you to have access to" something that you can already access?

    ... "from the bugs" ...
    the bacteria in the guts of termites can break cellulose into glucose

    ... "from the ground" ...
    trichoderma are fungii that are present in nearly all soils and produce large amounts of enzymes that can break down cellulose

    dec 3 05 In America, a new source of energy. America the pioneer. Coming from beneath their feet. That bugs have enjoyed shall become a major source because along with discovering this shall another great discovery come around the month of April of next year, between February and April. That will be what will swing America to the point of never having to rely upon the Middle East again, ever, ever, says the Lord.

    ... "because along with discovering this shall another great discovery come around the month of April of next year, between February and April"

    on june 30 06 researchers at the university of wisconsin-madison found an efficient way to convert fructose to HMF. this leaves at least a 2 month gap from april as stated in the prophecy. i don't know if there actually was a 2 month delay before the discovery was published.

    the article in science magazine about the PNNL discovery (it costs $10 to buy it online) mentions this previous discovery. i think it's safe to say that this discovery is what prompted the work at PNNL.

    sep 3 05 "For those that don't know it, God said that there's a big 'E' that's being brought forth. Not petroleum, this is going to be a new source. God said they are going to have to press in to get that energy or that source to this nation. In other words, they cannot rely on the source or the natural resources. They cannot rely upon oil. There is something else; the government of the USA is about to release that, and release it, it shall. It's going to be a fantastic thing.

    ... "they are going to have to press in to get that energy or that source" ...

    it's going to take a lot of work to find an efficient way to convert cellulose (trees, waste paper products, etc) to glucose using bacteria and fungus from bugs and the soil. then more work to convert glucose to HMF. then more work to convert HMF to something that we can use as a substitute for gasoline and other petroleum based products.

    ... "they cannot rely on the source or the natural resources" ... There is something else; the government of the USA is about to release that, and release it, it shall....

    we can't just rely on cellulose and the bacteria and fungus that we need to convert it to glucose. we also need to be able to convert it to HMF.

    PNNL is run by battelle for the department of energy so i believe that this supports my idea that their discovery is part of the big e.

  • At 9:10 PM, Anonymous Static said…

    oops. brain fart. let me clarify the second sentence up from the bottom of the last post :

    we can't just rely on cellulose and the bacteria and fungus. we need use these things together to convert the cellulose to glucose. then we also need to convert the glucose to HMF.

  • At 9:31 PM, Anonymous Static said…

    i have the science magazine article in pdf format if anyone wants it. it's pretty heavy reading if you don't know jack about chemistry (like me). remember that posting your e-mail address here will invite spam. use a throwaway e-mail address or something.

  • At 8:19 AM, Anonymous Michael said…

    It's clear that the Big E is E-coli bacteria/bugs, which will convert materials like wood chips, paper, garbage, municipal waste into glucose or whatever, which will then be converted into a usuable fuel.

    CETH ( around 35 cents a share and it looks like a good investement..

    California based company and trees seem to be part of the prophecy directing us as to where we need to put our money.

    Look up Convergence Ethanol and tell me if it doesn't fit into the Big E prophecy.

    As for the Einstien thing (Universal energy theory) well that's just basically talking about "free" or "zero point" energy, in which a self purpetuating energy source is discovered.

    Water is one of those sources in which the hydrogen and oxygen molecules in water are split apart and the hydrogen gas is then burned, which can be used in place of gasoline. The hydrogen then turns back into water and can be recycled from the tail piple and burned again.

    Self perpetuating cycle, just need to replace the 12 volt battery as usual every so many years..

    Another source of perpetual alternative energy is cold fusion ( and magnets ( (cold fusion) researchers/scientists have merged with Solar Energy Limited and trades under the ticker symbol SLRE.

    So my picks have been revised from PEIX and XNL to CETH Convergence Ethanol which produces ethanol from wood chips and they have stated they can adapt to new technologies, which in the future will probably utilize E-coli bacteria/bugs (Big E) to break down the huge stock pile of woodchips, near their plant in Canada, into glucose, which will then be converted to a usable fuel source. The company is based in California...

    PEIX and XNL will most likely convert quickly over to this new technology to break down waste materials into ethanol. So these are still good stock picks, especially at just over a dollar with XNL (X Ethanol out of Colorado) and just over 12 dollars with PEIX (Pacific Ehtanol out of California).

    CETH (

    Chevron has already made deals with them to by their ethanol, which is now being refined from wood chips in the same way gasoline is refined from oil.

    Walmart has also agreed to install ehtanol (E85) filling stations along side their existing gasoline filling stations.

    SLRE Is my other pick, which looks promising. One of the two guys who developed cold fusion back in 1989, now works for, (see that site for details) which has merged with and again this is a very low priced stock at around 50 cents.

    Kim said we would have access to these companies, which to me says that their shares will be very low priced, so that we can all make millions by investing in these companies, unlike the tech stock craze that most had no access to. Google opened up at over 100 dollars and went to over 400 and with an investment of 10,000 dollars thats just 40,000 dollars, but if one were to get in at 50 cents and the stock climbed to over 400, which is possible, then that same investment of 10,000 would become 8 million..

    Anything stock above a dollar would make it tough for the prophecy to be true, which states those with 5,000, 10,000 and 20,000 will become millionaires overnight.

    If I put 10,000 into SLRE, it would have to rise to 100 dollars a share for me to have 2 million dollars worth of shares..

    Google opened up just over 100 dollars and SLRE is an over the counter buy back stock (OTC BB), If I remember right the BB stands for buy back, which is the lowest status, as far as stocks are concerned, I think, which theoretically could open up on the NASDAQ, at a much higher price, in the future, if it moved from the OTC BB status to a regular NASDAQ status...which it may have been at one time..

    CETH and SLRE

    Look into these two stocks and tell me what you think.


  • At 8:55 AM, Blogger Mandy said…

    Static and Michael,

    Thank you for your comments and sharing your thoughts on the Big E.

    I have to admit, the science of the Big E has gotten overwhelming to me. I think you both did an excellent job of breaking things down. I can tell you have invested much time, research and prayer concerning the Big E, and I pray that the Lord will pour out His favor to you both to advance His Kingdom on earth.

    Many blessings,

  • At 12:31 AM, Anonymous Static said…

    well, here are my latest thoughts. nothing terribly insightful but i'm happy to have a conversation going that keeps me aware of what's going on with the big e.

    ethanol may be part of the big e but the big e isn't just ethanol. i don't think it would be a good idea to invest in an ethanol company based only on the hope that it will discover the big e. here are some quotes from kim about this:

    "But a surprise is upon you, a great surprise from the garbage, from insects, shall come from beneath your feet a new source of energy. **Not ethanol only**, something else shall come out of it"

    "I told you **it is not only ethanol** but God said something very unusual that was buried decades ago with Einstein shall come to pass and shall be recovered and discovered"

    "A new source of energy shall suddenly emerge from the hollow, from nothing, from junk. **Do not say it is ethanol.**"

    i believe that kim's prophecy on september 3 2005 suggests that the u.s. government will discover the big e ("There is something else; the government of the USA is about to release that, and release it, it shall. It's going to be a fantastic thing."). if the government discovers it and patents it, then they might license the technology to one or more companies. kim's recent june 16, 2007 prophecy mentions that it will be patented. i might be misinterpreting what kim is saying about the government but that's what seems to make the most sense to me.

    michael, i really like your point about the possibility of penny stocks rising to hundreds of dollars per share. i hadn't thought of that. (probably because i've only traded forex and haven't ever traded stocks). it would certainly explain how those of us with $5000 or more could become millionaires. i've been rethinking my idea of it being an ipo. from what i've read, ipos can be really hard for the average investor to get in on so perhaps i was wrong.

    after looking at the financial status of SLRE and CETH, i understand why they are penny stocks :P.. if it is a penny stock that will make us millionaires then it had better fit kim's prophecies 100% or i'm not investing my money. way too risky for me. as far as i can tell, it's too early to invest because none of the alternatives fit what kim has said.. unless, of course, god gives you some insider information or something.

    i'm very suspect of d2fusion. as far as i can tell, no one outside the company has anything to say about them. everyone seems to think that the cold fusion scientist they hired is a quank. they don't even have a working prototype as far as i can tell. but they are on the west coast, and i could certainly see cold fusion as "einsteinian". their work has nothing to do with bugs, cellulose, liquid fuel, garbage, or trees, though.

    on a somewhat unrelated note i've just noticed that not all of kim's prophecies are linked to on his national prophecy web page here:

    fortunately a directory listing is available here: so you can dig through all the stuff that isn't linked to.

    here is an unlinked prophecy from 2006:

    You will see it appearing by the month of September and October and you'll say, there it is. And God says, take your money and put it in for surely the new source of energy will bring billions of dollars within a two-year period upon those that invest in the "Big E." For God says, don't you understand that this is something that Einstein saw and will become a practicality and a fact.

    i was closely watching for the big e around august, september, and october of last year. i don't think that i had figured out how to access his prophecies through the directory listing at that time, though. i think i probably accessed it from a link in words.html. i might be mistaken. the possibility that they unlink some prophecies *BUGS ME*. anyway, his prophecy in 2006 seemed to refer to september or october of 2006 but it didn't explicitly say 2006. it just said september and october. so perhaps it was referring to 2007 or later. kim said in october 2006, "2007 you shall say, the fall, the fall, the fall has brought about the energy that we need".

  • At 3:34 PM, Anonymous Static said…

    kim mentioned a discovery that would take place in florida. because of the wording in the following selected quotations i think that the discovery took place between october 7 2006 and june 16 2007. i'm not sure about the dates but it seems to be what he is saying. i'd like to find out what the florida discovery is.

    june 16 07 Now even as I promised, through these next few months one thing after another will be uncovered. Down in Florida it began but God says on the pacific, the west coast, there is also great discovery. You will not have to struggle for the breakthrough that is coming to you.

    oct 7 06 it shall come to pass that even in the soil of Florida and even out of this State connected with three other States, a great and a marvelous discovery shall come to pass. And the Lord says, people that live here and have listened to the prophet shall invest and God said, within months shall be earning millions of dollars because of the incredible insight that was given to them. God's Spirit says, keep your eye on the tree, keep your eye on the tree. Keep your eye on a rock. And God says, between a rock and a hard place something shall come forth and they shall say, "but was this not something that Einstein spoke about?"

    here is an interesting article about research done at the university of florida to map the genome of the black cottonwood tree in an effort to understand its properties and find trees that are genetically suitable for efficient processing into ethanol. i don't think this is the discovery kim mentioned because the news was released before october 7, 2006. but it's still pretty neat.

    this is a more acceptable candidate because it falls between october 06 and june 07:

    from the article:

    The study identifies four genes that produce enzymes responsible for taking cellulose molecules apart, insight that could lead to breakthroughs in energy production and pest control, said Michael Scharf, an assistant research scientist with UF’s entomology department and a co-author of the paper.

  • At 12:18 PM, Anonymous Static said…

    this discovery (in florida) was mentioned on kim clement's web site. it happens within the time frame i mentioned in the above post. it doesn't seem to fit with the energy from cellulose discoveries already mentioned but it does fit another of kim's prophecies about energy coming from the sea.

  • At 1:21 PM, Anonymous Static said…

    here's the best site that i've found so far for keeping track of the latest news that might be relevant to the big e.

  • At 1:14 AM, Anonymous Static said…

    this one might be a winner!:

    i'll definitely be keeping an eye on it.

  • At 11:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    My name is Michael. I'm in NJ. I am very blessed and excited by this blog. I too have researched and searched the big E since hearing Kim. Last year about this time I kept hearing these words in my spirit and practically audibly: Double Helix. When I began to research it it seemed to not fit into the whole thing. I still have only pieces of what it has to do with the big E. if anything. Still, beginning to research the Double Helix is what lead me to what Kim mentioned with Albert E. and what he was trying to do before he died. Ijust thought I'd share what I have heard in the Spirit: Double Helix. Below is a site that I also found interesitng. Read the light purple section at the bottom of the page.

  • At 10:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    My name is Gordon and I am about to reveal exactly what the Big E stands for. Thirty five years ago God gave me a mission which is now completed.He has just positioned my family and I in the State of Texas. The Project is called The Trident Energy Power Plant and is the largest non-fossil or nuclear power plant in the world. It will produce vast amoutns of low cost electricity, hydrogen for vehicles and millions of gallons of fresh drinking water every hour. There is no pollution of any kind This first power plant will be built in the state of Texas. More than five different countries would like us to construct one in theirs. More will be sent out latter today 10/27/07
    How the power plant works can be found at

  • At 1:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    October 23, 2007

    “We All must have Water and Power to Live”
    Stop Wasting Time! God has the Answer to save mankind!
    We must get radical before it’s too late! Not afterward!

    ANNOUNCING: “The Trident Energy Power Plant”
    Is Seeking Investors to help us Supply the U.S.A. and the World
    With an Unlimited, Fresh Water Supply and (Low Cost) Electricity

    A New Generation of Energy… a (three-fold) power plant
    Is Calling Out For Investors

    AND GOD SAID… “Let there be Light ” = Energy
    And Jesus said, “I came to bring you abundant life”

    Trident Energy Power can process (Unlimited) Low cost Electricity; millions of gallons of Hydrogen every day for our vehicles and aircraft, and millions of gallons of abundant
    Steam Distilled, pure Drinking Water every day, drawn from the ocean. Trident Energy is Clean, Safe, and Abundant, not using fossil fuels or toxic nuclear power, thus promoting fresh, clean water, air, and land… for God has prepared the way. We do not dam rivers, lakes, or streams. The Trident Power plant uses only Hydro, Solar, and Steam and the Base power plant is (4) times bigger than a nuclear power plant and costs far less to build.

    To all Christians who have been following Prophet Kim Clement, I wish to take a long story and shorten it. Over thirty-five years ago I received a spiritual mission from God (our Father in heaven), and after accepting my mission, I routinely accessed into a complete training process in years of hours, in visions by day, and continuing in vivid dreams by night...until every component was detailed and is written in my heart. This mission has reached a point in time where it is ready and must be “Birthed Out Now!” Manifestation is ready, and the location is ready and waiting to be received. The time is now! I am earnestly calling out for Investors for I of myself do not have that kind of funding / And God’s Word tells us “for every vision, there is His provision.” So I will abide in Him as He abides in me. Whosoever will come forward forming a single collected Investment Group…Their Funds shall enter an Escrow Account designated for the purchase of this desired parcel of land to build The Trident Energy Power Plant.

    Please Note: Investors shall receive a Financial Deluxe Return reward for assisting. You are welcome to write to my email address and I will answer your questions. Please write to:

    Last fall, I wrote to Kim Clement and told him his Prophecy was “ours to claim” and that I know God will provide the right people for this power plant to be built soon.

    You see, a little over a year ago, God directed my wife and I to move out of Florida to Texas, for this is where God wanted this power plant to be built…and to our surprise… We are here!

    Three weeks ago, I asked God to provide specific land for this power plant. I asked for 20,000 acres and specified required details to be already present on the land and this is exactly what God presented to us. God put before us an increase in acres for less than we were looking to pay for 20,000 acres…as I was told we had the necessary Investors for this project, however, for some reason they have not come forward. This is God’s Project and the first power plant of its kind. Even though other countries want to have this built in their area, I believe it is God’s will for our United States to come first. -Glory to God.

    God has directed my attention back to Prophet Kim Clement and Christians following him who want to share in the physical manifestation of the big E. Einstein, I am not, although my wife Dee, sometimes even calls me that. However, I am Gordon L. Head and I am a master plumber still earning a living…Longing to start and to finish the
    Trident Energy Power Plant…That is all I am consumed with daily in my heart. My wife,
    Dee and I are born-again Christians as is our daughter Julie, and her husband. Julie is also President and CEO of our company. She was born for such a time as this.
    We reside in the Austin Texas area but the project land selected is closer to Houston.

    Interested parties may contact us at:

    To view our website URL you may go to:

    Below, I am providing you with the breakdown of our schedule needed to construct this power plant. We are not creating a Base plant, but one producing a great deal more electricity, millions of gallons of hydrogen and millions of gallons of steam distilled drinking water per hour.
    “Glory to God…I Thank You.” Sincerely, ~ GORDON L. HEAD

    The Breakdown and Profit List is as follows:

    The Trident Energy Power Plant Financial Schedule

    $10,000,000 to be paid by Trident Energy Power to a single Investor or to one established Investment Group within 30 days after completion of these three following tasks.

    -See next page
    Investor’s Tasks Needed:Three Financial Steps Required,To be Deposited In Escrow Accounts: (Step 1)$300,000 For Earnest MoneyTo: Border Title Group -And- (Step 2) $6,000,000 For Pre-Construction Loan. Is to be obtained within (4) four weeks or (28) Days after obtaining Earnest money.Upon receiving Pre-Construction Loan $400,000 to be paid to individual or individuals depositing earnest money.
    (Investment Group or Individual)


    (Date Received From Trident)

    (Trident Energy Power Acknowledgement

    (Step 3)
    Construction Loan of $1.9 billion dollars must be set in place by Feb 10, 2008.

    $6,000,000 plus $2,000,000 Total $8,000,000 to be paid back for pre-construction loan.

    Construction loan to be paid back to investors in the following manner: [1] one year after going on line producing electricity. The construction period will be no more than {Three and a half years} Trident will pay the investor group 1.5 billion dollars per year for the length of [15] fifteen years = A Total of $22,500,000,000.

    ~-A Company to Better-Serve Mankind-~

    “Thank You, on Behalf of Trident Energy Power.” From: ~ Gordon L. Head

  • At 2:40 AM, Anonymous Kingdom Investing said…

    Please check out

    God is pouring out prosperity upon the church, he is bringing the wealth of the wicked and turning it over to the righteous.

    Togeather we are working to gather knowledge about investing. While discussing the prophetic words given through Kim Clement.

    We are a watch tower for the Big E.

    Our desire is to see the phrophecies of the lord fufilled in moving the kingdom wealth into the hands of the christian ministries through out the earth.

    We invite you Gordon to register and join the discussion with us.

  • At 7:41 PM, Anonymous Gordon L. Head said…

    To watch tower investment: I thank you for the opertunity to discuss the Trident Enery Power Plant, however I was unable to complete my register on your site. God brought my wife and I from Florida to Texas because this is where he wanted this plant built. I am looking for serious investors who want to make a great deal of money and also make a great change in our world. This project is the Big E that Kim Clement has talked about and this project will be built here in Texas soon. Should the Christian people wish to invest,their money will be safely guarded every inch of the way. My family and I are born again Christias and we walk in the rightousness of God and I am the steward of this project.
    Respectfully Yours,
    Gordon L. Head

  • At 6:53 AM, Anonymous Michael said…

    November 17, 2007

    PEIX and XNL dropped more than I thought they would ever drop.

    I did not invest in these stocks during the summer like I had planned, thinking they would climb in the fall. We may have to wait until next fall.

    It seems as if PEIX and XNL need more time to bottom out.

    I'm watching PEIX closely as new developements may come to the surface, replacing current corn waste ethanol production.

    I have not invested in PEIX, XNL or CETH, which I thought would be a good investment in the summber months, expecting them to start climging in the fall.

    Obviously nothing seems to be happening with these stocks, although there seems to be a good amount of money to be made on the down side, if one were to sell short these stocks.

    I've scratched every alternative energy stock in favor of PEIX.

    I'm watching to see what it will bottom out at.

    Remeber Bill Gates has 84 million dollars in this stock and he bought at a higher price than it is now.

    Part of Kim's prophecies suggested we watch what Bill Gates invests in.

    Kim's prophecy concerning the Big-E seems to span from 2006 through 2010, at which time he has prophesied the U.S. government would be completely out of debt as would many of others.

    PEIX stands out very strongly for me, it seems to fit the description as the company which will take current ethanol technologies and adapt to using new technologies as they become available.

    CETH (Convergence Ethanol) already has their plant set up to convert wood chips, a step closer to what we are looking for.

    The new E-coli patented technology may be the Big E we're looking for, in my opinion. I've seen the patents concerning this technology and have read over one of them.

    E-coli backteria are being used to eat things like wood chips, which then produce a type of sugar that is then distilled and converted into a type of burnable fuel, which new cars should already be set up to automatically adjust to, just as they are already set up to automatically adjust to either gas or ethanol.

    I'm watching for this new E-coli technology to go public, which may cause PEIX stock to climb.

    The government will no doubt announce this to the business world. They want to cash in on this too. They have and will be actively involved in helping develope new alternative technologies. Vice President Cheney has been actively involved with the developement of alternative energies.

    The government is debating the ethanol issue now, since the recent outcry concerning the price of corn.

    It's a great set up for this new E-coli technology to replace corn ethanol production.

    Big E Equals E-coli bacteria technology, in my opinion.

    It could also stand for the the "E" in the coming Energy craze which has already gained momentum.

    Free energy, for example, seems to be gaining momentum.

    Einstien's Unified Theory is being re-examined.

    For instance, there is free energy available to us from ordinary magnets and water.

    Google free energy, magnetic energy, water car, etc.

  • At 9:39 PM, Anonymous static said…

    well, i've been gone from this blog for some time and i haven't seen anything interesting happen until now.

    i also saw this article on the front page of so it's gotta be a lot of places.

    i seem to have read that einstein was looking for a theory of everything, which this discovery could be.

    oh. and it's based on some mathematical thingie called E8.. which starts with an E.. so that sort of looks promising.

    dunno. we'll see.

  • At 3:41 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    DOUBLE HELIX sounds like STRING THEORY which is said to prove God's existence scientifically. Albert Einstein wanted to do this. I believe Big E is simply the BIG E in E=mc2. Albert Einstein & Bose were working on FUSION before he died. Einstein also was working on Unified Theory which correlates with String Theory IMO. COLD FUSION is the future...

  • At 5:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF ALL INVENTION. Cold fusion is the answer to $100 oil:

  • At 5:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Fission or Fusion Which Are You?

  • At 5:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Check out this website for more Big E research and prophetic investing:

  • At 7:25 PM, Anonymous static said…

    the people at ls9 claim to be able to economically create designer fuels including gasoline from plants.

    this could fit kim's timeframe because it could be delivered using our existing infrastructure.

    they're on the west coast too.

    ls9 is privately held. if they go public, i'd look into buying shares. if everything they say is true, that is.

  • At 5:21 AM, Anonymous Praises said…

    When I first heard about big E, I prayed and searched was led to this Ecoli breakthrough by two Florida professors. By then the company was private. They were called BC International Corp. I recently did some search again just to see whats up and found out that they have changed to the name Celunol and now they have combined with another Energy company to become Verenium with ticker symbol VRNM
    This was not open before to public because I had called them to asked, but know I believe it is because of this new development. Any do more research and say what you think

    Check out their website

    Also read this excerpt and say what you think:
    A powerful company with a comprehensive basket of capabilities in the cellulosic ethanol industry has been formed by the signing of a definitive merger agreement between Diversa Corporation (NASDAQ: DVSA) and Celunol Corporation. On a pro-forma, fully diluted basis, Diversa stockholders will retain ownership of approximately 76 percent of the combined company, and Celunol stockholders and option holders will own approximately 24 percent. The transaction is expected to be completed by the end of the second quarter of 2007.

    The combined company will possess integrated end-to-end capabilities in pre-treatment, novel enzyme development, fermentation, engineering, and project development. It will seek to build a global enterprise as a leading producer of cellulosic ethanol and as a strategic partner in bio-refineries around the world.

    Celunol has recently commenced operations of the nation's first cellulosic ethanol pilot facility in Jennings, Louisiana (previous post) and expects to complete a 1.4 million gallons-per-year, demonstration-scale facility to produce cellulosic ethanol from sugarcane bagasse and specially-bred energy cane by the end of 2007. In addition, Celunol's process technology has been licensed by Tokyo- based Marubeni Corp. and has been incorporated into BioEthanol Japan's 1.4 million liter-per-year cellulosic ethanol plant in Osaka, Japan -- the world's first commercial-scale plant to produce cellulosic ethanol from wood construction waste. The combined company plans to bring its first U.S. commercial-scale cellulosic ethanol plants into production in late 2009.

  • At 2:54 PM, Blogger Daniel said…

    You guy are missing the boat, God has said several time that the Big E it is not ethanol. However, He also said that there would be five (5) sources of energy. 1. Ethanol from cellulose will probably be one of them. 2. He said look to the whales and dolphins for energy. What do all sea creatures eat indirectly? Algae. Do a Google search on algae for Bio-diesel. Also there is a great deal of effort to harness the action of waves to generate electricity.
    3. God said to look to the work of Albert Einstein. While he is well know for his formula E=mc2. He also discovered the Photovoltaic effect. We call them solar cells. He also did the work that resulted in the discovery of x-rays and microwaves. The latter of which I believe is key to the Big E. 4. God said it is under your feet and look to the west. This can mean two (2) things. Recently, the interest in the use of geothermal energy for the production of electricity has grown greatly. Again do a Google search or I can give you the companies symbols. 5. Lastly, the one area that I think is the primary Big "E" that meet the most parameters laid out in the most prophecies is Shale oil. Now before you all scoff, hear me out. God said look to the west, it is under your feet. He also said that there will no longer be any federal deficits. This last condition is the hardest condition to meet, since we all know how well the federal government like to spend money on nonproductive things. Where will all this money come from? The Unites States has within its boarders the worlds largest, by far, deposit of shale oil called the Green River Formation. See the following web page:

    And the best part is that it belongs to the government to lease out for royalties $$$$ paid to the US treasury.

    Currently, if you do a search one will find that the major oil companies have written this deposit off as impractical with present technology. However, there are three (3) companies that are conducting research using one of Albert Einstein discoveries to harvest this source of oil. Drum roll please!! Microwaves, I believe are the key to getting the oil out of kerogen. The three companies that are doing this research are publicly traded. Two are are penny stocks and one is a major player.

    If you are interested in more specific information, ie. company names and symbols e-mail me and ask.
    I can be reached at

  • At 2:23 PM, Blogger hometwnhero said…

    April 28, 2008

    Hi my name is marty. i have been following this blog and am excited about the possabilities.... The Lord has been teaching me a lot about finances lately and miracles are happening.... i am hoping to fulfill God's plan for my life as i have prayed for vision about this stuff... i am hoping to open a place that feeds and takes care of people, and equips them for service in the Kingdom, but it is going to take a lot of money.... i just wanted to remind people that the Word has a lot concerning finances, and that if we really want the blessings, with it comes much responsability.... i would encorage the Children of God to be thinking in terms of God's vision for their lives... the higher call in Christ.... this means that we need to be prepared to give what we receive... store up our treasures in heaven.... i pray that as the Lord pours out His blessings, that we have a kingdom focus and the heart and mind of Christ... i am going to be specifically focussed on praying and fasting about these things associated with the Big E prophesy and will share what God allows me to share on this blog... thank you all and may God richly prosper your souls as He has already prospered your spirit...
    ps. when posting on here can you all make sure to date your post so that it makes everything more relevant... thanks again ... in Christ... marty.

  • At 6:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Does anybody know if Kim has made any prophecies about the big E so far this year?

  • At 5:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Check this site out for Prophetic Investing & Big E:

  • At 2:57 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…

    1am Saturday, June 14, 2008

    Wow! I didn't know so many people cared about this prophecy. I guess though when money gets involved, people start thinking.

    I too have been searching for the "big E", but just thought tonight to Google "the big E - Kim Clement". This blog was the first site to pop up under that particular Google search.

    I have been reading a lot of the comments made. There where so many links posted that I had to ignore most of them. For this reason, I am not to sure I want to post a link.

    Earlier tonight I wrote a little bit about cellulosic ethanol on my blog. I had heard about Kim's prophecy maybe about two years ago now, and since then I have research about it as much as I could. I even invested in PEIX, but pulled out just before it dropped to about $6 a share.

    There is so much speculation about what the "Big E" could be. Reading about all the comments, there where a couple of things that stuck out to me.

    Something would be found in Florida, and something would happen in Sept/ Oct.

    I know that this post is starting to get a little long, but I feel that I need to write what I am about to write, right now.

    This is the cut off point, if you don't have a lot of time, you may skip to the next post because I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. Only if you are really interested in what I am saying, do I suggest that you continue reading.

    Anyway, for those of you that I did not lose in the above paragraph, there are a couple of things that I want to say.

    First off, I would like to point off that there is a huge move of God happening right now in Lakeland, Florida, that is spreading all around the world through God T.V. Now I know that this has nothing to do with a physical energy source, but if you are looking for spiritual power, look no further than there.

    Bring it back to the physical world, there was a guy earlier on this post that posted a link to a PDF page that showed a discover made in Florida, about cellulosic ethanol.

    This was the exact words on the PDF file, which can be found at:

    If look at the bottom of the right hand side of this article in the purple, you will see what I and the above posted talked about.

    That takes care of Florida. Now as far as the Sept/ Oct thing that one of the posters talked about, I really believe that something great is going to happen during this time of 2008. Yes, 2008! Around the Jewish New Year, I heard on person prophecy. I put the prophecy on a podcast, which can be found at:

    Now, ever since hearing this prophecy, I have been looking to 2008 Jewish New Year, which will be the end of Sept. and beginning of Oct.

    A couple of days ago though, I was browsing the Elijah List, for the first time, and ran across the date: Sept. 21st of this year as possibly being a "significant date".

    Below is a copy and paste -
    Rick Joyner:

    "The History and Future of the Present Revival: This is a Time of a Great Visitation of God to His People!"

    I have been receiving communications from around the United States and Europe that are all reporting the same thing--they are seeing healings and miracles on a level like they have never seen before. This is a time of a great visitation of God to His people. Even so, I remain convinced that what we are now experiencing is a birth pang, a spiritual contraction that is preparing us for the birth of an even greater move of God, which I expect to take place this September/October.

    The indications we have received especially point to September 21 as being a significant date. Because we "see in part" and "prophesy in part" (see I Corinthians 13:9), I cannot say for sure what will happen on that day, except that it will be a significant day, especially in relation to revival in America.

    So who knows what the Lord is doing? Honestly, I hate to change the subject to a spiritual matter, but what if the "Big E" that Kim was prophesying about was a spiritual matter too? However, I am definitely going to keep my eyes open for anything.

    I definitely know that a great spiritual energy (but as I pointed out, cellulosic ethanol seems to have perfected there) is coming out of Florida right now, and that something great is going to happen on Sept. 21st or around that date of this year, 2008. Whether it is going to be the physical (cellulosic ethanol) or spiritual, is anyone's guess. However, maybe it will be both...


    Timothy Shields
    - Psalm 37:4 -

  • At 1:50 PM, Blogger Amos said…

    22 June 2008

    Hi Timothy,

    This Big E certainly isn't a spiritual thing, it's a new source of energy that's going to cause the US to become independent of Middle East Oil within a 6 year period. And it ain't Ethanol either coz of 3reasons:

    1. Einstein wasn't working on Ethanol when he died.
    2. The new source of energy will cause cars to become silent and release no fumes.
    3. God said it's not Ethanol.

    One thing for sure is that it's a molecule that begins with an E and it's right under our feet. Bill Gates is also going to open the door for the christian community (spiritual christian community, not the religious) to invest in it. So my own personal opinion is that it's some kind of organic molecule that will be used to produce electricity to run cars.

    Einstein's unified field theory also makes possible the discovery over infinite or unlimited energy, and since this is what he was working on when he died i think the new energy source will have a lot to do with this theory. What do u think? Rememeber we have to find out what the Big E is before the world does otherwise we'll never get the chance to invest in it, so we have to move fast.

    Remember that in the year 2009 the USA would have tapped into the Big E 4times. So we're running out of time.

  • At 2:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Timothy, Just wanted to let you know that God said it was not Ethanol only. He did not say not ethanol. Cellulosic ethanol is part of the Big E. Hydrogen is the ultimate answer and in the unified theory it is that all matter can be transfered to one form from another. We see with the hydrogen fuel cells in vehicles that it can use electricity and oxygen to convert the substance to hydrogen with only water being released through emissions. The cars would be silent because of the electric conversion process instead of internal combustion. Also the big E being tapped into 4 times I believe involves ethanol and geothermal as well as maybe solar and wind. Maybe Marine energy from waves. Ford just released to the DOE a plug in hybrid flex fuel vehicle to which gets 88 mpg(city) and 50 mpg(hwy). As far as bugs eating garbage and waste products we see this with certain ethanol companies which can use non-food sources and certain microbes to process this stuff. All part of prophecy.

  • At 3:46 AM, Blogger Amos said…

    Hi Anonymous, thanks for the informative response. I agree with most of what u said but about ethanol here are a few good reasons why i know it's not the Big E.

    A new source of energy shall suddenly emerge from the hollow, from nothing, from junk. Do not say it is ethanol. I'm about to surprise you and show this Nation that the claws of those that have stood in the Middle East and in South America that have said we will hold onto them, God says I will shake them off you. This Nation shall once again stand as an independent force with energy in its hand.

    I can stand before somebody that's about to be the President of the United States and say don't worry about the oil crisis because God told me there's going to be a new source of energy its called the big E, what's the big E, we know about ethanol God says No there's something else which came from Einstein that you're going to find out and this nation will tell the Middle East you can take your oil and shove it because God says I've got something new I'm going to reveal to you.

    For God says, even you have heard and learned that a new source of energy is coming. Many have said, ethanol, ethanol, but God said, watch what I do. I will take from nothing and make something.

    The Big is a molecule that begins with an E, that's what it is, perhaps hydrogen will be a part of it but it certainly won't be the Big E.

  • At 11:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Got you mixed up last time anyway I appreciate your comment and I agree ethanol in itself is not the big E but you must understand it is part of it. The Big E I believe is not really harvesting one particular substance but it is a collective process from one form to another and our technology is able to convert it into the Big E. You showed me a prophecy which says no ethanol but that procephy is regarding the end conclusion. Let me post one here for you.

    4/4/2007 (Kim CLement) Our soil has presented us with that which we need to be independent of the Middle East
    For the year 2009 energy will have changed drastically. This Nation will have tapped into the "Big E" four times. Ethanol shall then be changed into another "coli" and then God said two more times and then there shall be a breakthrough in this Nation and you shall look at the Middle East and you shall say, "no more, no more of your deceit, no more of your control, no more of your oil, it's over." Our soil has presented us with that which we need to be independent of the Middle East, says the Lord!

    Also what are your ideas here. I believe certain cellulose ethanol companies are good investments because of the demand they will have in the future. I also believe in the shale oil being prosporous, and maybe Ls9 inc. I have several ideas as well. If you are interested I have a whole list compiled of prophecies starting 9/3/2005 all through the years until 1/26/2008. Let me know if you would like to see them collectively it paints a big picture for you.

  • At 11:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

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  • At 6:05 PM, Blogger Amos said…

    I guess u're right about hydrogen, i heard another prophet (Jason Westerfield) being interviewed by Sid Roth and he was saying there's an energy revolution coming and hydrogen will play a big part in it. Here's what he said:

    Jason: Well I was having breakfast with my wife, I wasn't feeling very spiritual, just enjoying breakfast with my wife, and a vision opened up to my left for about 40-45 minutes, and the Lord began to show me the coming energy revolution. So just as we had an industrial age, right now this generation will be known as the energy age and energy revolution. and he showed me how we were going to be going to a hydrogen based world economy, and when that begins to come about, the different changes, geo-politically will take place on the planet and there will be a massive human rights movement take place. And I saw some converters that because of these converters every nation will be able to utilize and be self-sufficient in their energy and because of that the world will not be dependant on oil and we will see literally a global shift in power begin to take place.

    I think perhaps the statement that the Big E will be tapped into 4times might have something to do with the unified field theory. Remember what u said about matter being converted from one form to another? Apparently it's a transmutation process whereby a substance is converted into another substance one level down over and over again until the basic atom of hydrogen is achieved while harvesting all energy between the step down processes. So maybe there could be 4 steps to doing this and the first step would begin with the Big E molecule, going down untill we get to hydrogen.

    Obviously the fact that Ford motor company shall make one of the important discoveries leading to the Big E has to mean that we are indeed dealing with hydrogen since they're doing a lot of research with hydrogen fuel cells. Perhaps the Big E molecule is an abundant molecule found in the soil, sticks, dirt, dung, paper, etc (according to the prophecies) that will be very easy to transmute down to hydrogen using the atomic slicing techniques in the unified field theory.

    I don't understand what the statement "Ethanol will then be converted into another coli" means, coz surely this cannot be refering to ethanol being converted into a living form of E coli bacteria. This Big E prophecy is so difficult, God didn't make it easy or give out all the information about it coz he wants it to be for the righteous only not the unrighteous, bcoz of the coming wealth transfer. But hopefully we'll be able to figure it out soon

    By the way i also compiled all the prophecies about the Big E from Kim Clement's website, from 2005 right up to April of this year.

  • At 7:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


    I have watched Jason Westerfield on the Sid Roth show. Also he was just at my church this last Sunday. He went through our school of supernatural ministry years ago now he is a lighting Rod for God. Should hear his testimonies about the miracles God has used him for. He said he has also transported three times this year. Sound crazy, I know but remember the scriptures Jesus said people would do greater things than he did and he walked on water and raised the dead. You are right this Big E stuff can be a bit overwhelming it is crucial to make sure you keep God first while we wait and search for his word it can be easy to get caught up in the blessing of God rather than God himself. I also really believe that the geothermal technology will be a huge part regarding home heating/cooling systems as well so keep your eye out on that one too. The ethanol to E Coli is confusing because from what I have read it seems that it is the other way around and the reason this is supposed to be so important is because of 1)the energy efficiency it will produce 2)it would be cost effective. Have you ever heard of Sunethanol if not check them out they are backed by Verasun which is currently the biggest corn ethanol plant who is interested in cellulose ethanol.

  • At 8:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You've got it backwards, it is the e-coli that makes the ethanol not the other way around.

  • At 9:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Your right the article I just posted from greentech explains the process. I got confused for minute, thanks.

  • At 7:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Bob Jones prophesied about a water-fuelled car by 2010. Shawn Bolz prophesied about Cold Fusion which uses deuterium(salt water/heavy water). NOTE: John Kanzius was listed on Kim Clements' website: Fla. Man Invents Machine To Turn Water Into Fire- May 24, 2007 :

    CHECK OUT: Prophetic investing in the Big E & NASDAQ per Kim Clements' prophecies.

  • At 7:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There were dreams about the Big E being on this website:

    NOTE: Big E's predecessors' are already on there.

  • At 6:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "I dare you to obey the Lord and speak what the prophets say: There is no recession! Why? For in one day I can change everything, says the Lord." - KIM CLEMENT

    Has anyone else been putting Kim Clements' NASDAQ prophetic pieces together: "SUDDENLY, I will do some unusual things where you will SUDDENLY make money, I will cause it to increase and go higher, NASDAQ rise to its' highest place ever, Something Like This Has Never Happened Before, Look To August, September, October For A Miracle In The Stock Market & Banking, People will run, run, run(He's referring to the banking/credit crisis here), Let the wrong people run(People that listen to prognostication), You will not run for you shall have something that you will speak about for the rest of your life, I will give you a testimony" - KIM CLEMENT QUOTES

    WOW: That's going to be quite a "SOMETHING" that would cause you to "SPEAK ABOUT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE"!

    Buy this NASDAQ(QQQQ) call option for $10/each per Kims' NASDAQ prophecies:

  • At 9:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    United In Inspiration, Imagination, Anticipation & Expectation

    Date Revealed: 8:40pm, Jul 11, 2008

    BREAKING NEWS: Office of Thrift Supervision shuts down IndyMac: "This bank is the LARGEST regulated thrift to FALL and the second largest financial institution to close IN U.S. HISTORY, regulators said". IndyMac stock went from $10 in May down to zero today. BREAKING NEWS: Lehman Free-FALL Continues: The FALL of BEAR Stearns: "TWO great banking systems will FALL but it is not something that will destroy this nation. He said it is the BEAR and it is the LION. I've got to do a bit of removing(PRUNING), so I can take you to that HIGHER... Read More BREAKING NEWS: Office of Thrift Supervision shuts down IndyMac:
    "This bank is the LARGEST regulated thrift to FALL and the second largest financial institution to close IN U.S. HISTORY, regulators said". IndyMac stock went from $10 in May down to zero today.

    BREAKING NEWS: Lehman Free-FALL Continues:

    The FALL of BEAR Stearns:

    "TWO great banking systems will FALL but it is not something that will destroy this nation. He said it is the BEAR and it is the LION. I've got to do a bit of removing(PRUNING), so I can take you to that HIGHER PLACE. There will be no recession!" - KIM CLEMENT

    NOTE: Banking systems began their FALL in May, right after this prophecy was made on April 18. Coincidence? I Believe this prophecy is being finalized this month, look to August for that HIGHER PLACE to happen at the NASDAQ, SUDDENLY. I prophecy it!

    SIDENOTE: Should the NASDAQ go to its' "higher place" as prophesied by Kim Clement, the above $10 call will be worth at least a $1,000 or more.

  • At 2:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

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  • At 9:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To learn more about Kim Clements' NASDAQ & Big E Prophetic Promises, go to:

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  • At 2:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    We would like to invest in the NASDAQ
    HOW do we buy these shares...?
    We are new to investments and sure could use your help.
    We have had a few prophetic words over our lives (confirmed in dreams). Our hearts are to finacially support people in the ministry.
    We have also started a non-profit organization called International Business for Children:
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  • At 3:01 PM, Blogger Ezekiel Visioneering Inc. said…

    Check out

    What Einstein saw...Sounds cool. I have seen this work. It is awesome!

  • At 7:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Lithium Vanadium Phosphate Fluoride (Batteries) These batteries are going to be in the market for Automotive and industrial uses. These are going to be possibly the platform for EV's?? I have been an investor in this for a while. Please do your own reseach. See By the way name of the Battery is called EPOCH which in latin (EPOCHAS) means beginnings which could be as in Big Bang. Big E? Who really knows?

  • At 6:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hello Ezekiel Visioneering,

    Tell us more. How/when to invest?

  • At 2:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hello everyone. The Big "E" has recentley been a great interest of mine.I have herd this prophecy before but it never had the impact on me untill the other night. I was awaken to the aubile voice of God, Saying,"E".That was it. I said "E what"?All of this is confusing.

  • At 5:53 AM, Blogger Amos said…

    Hi anonymous, welcome to the Big E community. If you'd like to find out more about this new source of Energy that's coming soon, that God calls the Big E, i could send you a collection of all the Kim Clement prophecies on the subject if u so wish.

  • At 2:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Kim Clement's 'The Big “E”'

    Starts with an “e”. (May 22, 2005)
    Not petroleum. Not oil. (May 22, 2005) (September 3, 2005)
    Safer than oil/petroleum. (May 22, 2005)
    They are going to have to press in to get that energy or that source to this Nation. In other words they can not rely on the source or the natural resources. (September 3, 2005)
    From “within this nation”. (September 3, 2005)
    Will come from:
    Bugs eating a bunch of stuff (September 3, 2005)
    Is currently being wasted. (September 3, 2005)
    The creatures are eating what could be used to cause our engines to work and our vehicles to move. (September 3, 2005)
    It's right under your feet. It's not coming from anywhere else. It's coming from the soil of ( America ). (September 9,2005)
    It shall come from the least obvious thing. They will say oh how obvious it was…It was right before our very eyes. (September 9, 2005)
    Is a “new form of energy.” (September 17, 2005)
    America is pioneering. (September 17, 2005)
    Will “take ( America ) from a trillion dollar deficit to no deficit whatsoever within a six-year period.” (September 17, 2005)
    “God is going to provide a way for you to invest and to make millions overnight.” (November 14, 2005)
    “Not ethanol only, something else shall come out of it” (December 31, 2005)
    Will be “discovered and in the next 18 months.” (December 31, 2005)
    “(God) will show (His) servants, the prophets, the places to invest.” (December 31, 2005)
    “Some shall say, "this is an Einsteinian craze" but it shall come from something that Einstein was discovering and bringing forth, but before his time, therefore (God) had to remove him… some of the theories shall become fact and God said, it shall be so surprising that people shall say, "what shall we do?” (December 31, 2005)
    “I will take men and women that have been waiting and sowing and I will cause them to become millionaires and billionaires in very short periods of time. For surely the Lord says, there is also a season that must come upon My people the righteous, who have diligently sown, they have dug, they have dug and they have said, we have prepared ourselves with ditches for from Edom shall come the provision that you need. For the water shall not come from the clouds, neither shall the water come from the wind, but the water shall come from a place you least expect it.” (January 19, 2006)
    “…something very unusual that was buried decades ago with Einstein shall come to pass and shall be recovered and discovered and America shall be on the forefront.” (March 3, 2006)
    “It will not take 12 years, 6 years, 4 years. It shall happen in a short period.” (March 3, 2006)
    “The discovery shall have such magnitude to it that there shall be various deaths for the greed of men in political office and political power. Sam, Sam, what are you doing, Gene, what are you doing? What are these men doing? Why have they crouched together? Why do they call themselves Americans and yet they sit at a table and they try and discover how they can steal it and take it over. Oh, you would kill innocent blood. Oh there is another one, a tall stately man who says, I will run for the office of the United States of America as the President. God said, no, you will not, for you have tried to steal as Judas tried to steal. God said, I will stop this political perversion and I will give this Nation because of a righteous President and because of a President who prays, I will give you a new source of energy and your economy shall change to where you will be a leading economic factor in the world again and they shall say, at last we are at a place where we can multiply our giving for evangelism that the Kingdom may be seen throughout the earth.” (March 3, 2006)
    “Use your brains, delve, discover. For I will take some of you that only have a 100,000 or 5,000 or 25,000 and make you millionaires by simply looking again to the west. What is in the west? God said, go and look, there is a great discovery. There is a company that I will raise up, that I will allow you to have access to so that you may make what was supposed to be unrighteous money, handed placed into the bosom of the righteous, My people.” (March 3, 2006)
    “It shall not come from other nations.” (March 10, 2006)
    Is “beneath our feet within the ground.” (March 10, 2006)
    “from dirt and bugs and dung” (March 10, 2006)
    “This year God is going to bring about a breakthrough with a new source of energy that is going to put America back in the front line again.” (March 17, 2006)
    “And God said they will say, oh, it's because of science. They will say it's because of scientific breakthrough, a new source of energy. No, it is not only because of that. But God said, I will give the spirit of discovery, creation and inventiveness into the motor industry - not in Japan , not in any other place - not in Germany , not in Switzerland , but in Detroit , Michigan .says the Lord.”
    “And they would mock the discoverers, they would mock the inventors? Who is Ford? Huh! Let me tell you, God says. Ford will be revived! It shall be revived in a way that shall shock the motor industry and they shall say, where did this all come from?” (April 8, 2006)

    “God said, listen, Pacific West. Look carefully, look and you shall find the place to put money into. God said, I will show you the tree again and you shall invest for it is my desire that I multiply your finances and get rid of your debt in the next two years says the Spirit of the Living God.” (April 8, 2006)
    “Now the Word of the Lord comes to this region. Did I not tell you that there would be discoveries? Did I not tell you from this region that there would come inventions? Did I not tell you that there would be cures that would come from this region and from this soil? Now let Me tell you a little secret - also from this region, says the Lord, shall come the divine intervention of God regarding your energy.” (June 30, 2006, Seattle , WA )
    “God says, this prophet would tell you that in just a very few short years you will not pay $3, your will not pay $2, it will come below that. And you shall say, how could this be possible? God said, do not say it's impossible.” (June 30, 2006)
    “People shall say how quiet are the cars, how quiet are the vehicles. Why is it that we do not hear the roar that we heard before.” (August 25, 2006)
    “How is it that we do not smell what we smelled before? In the fumes. It is gone.” (August 25, 2006)
    Will bring hundreds of millions and billions of dollars into the Kingdom of God . (September 10, 2006)
    “But the other (sign) shall be the stepping down of a Prime Minister of the Lion of the Nation of Great Britain. For when he does this, says the Lord, it shall be a sign, not because he stepped down. A sign that something shall advance, something shall advance out of Great Britain . Something shall advance, says the Spirit of God, from the United States . And I will take them and I will make them to be one sound and one voice, a very unusual revival, a very unusual breakthrough shall take place, says the Lord. And there shall be an acceleration on the oil crisis and suddenly there shall be an acceleration and discoveries shall be made one after the other. And God said your energy crisis shall slowly come to an end for I am going to bring prosperity upon the Body of Christ and upon those who have waited and said, God, I want you to lay upon me that blessing that you promised through Daniel, that blessing that your promised through Joseph, the blessing that you promised through Isaiah, the blessing that you promised through the prophets of old. I'm standing at this day where the Kingdom of God is about to advance upon the earth.” (September 15, 2006)
    In this year there are going to be Christian businessmen that are going to prosper because of it. (September 22, 2006)
    I'm going to reveal to (Kim Clement) and only to my warriors because they are the few that listen. (September 22, 2006)
    “Then God said to (Kim), I'm going to take you to a source and I'm going to place you in front of him. I never realized that it would be Vice President Dick Cheney. I had no clue that he had anything to do with energy. God said I will place you before him and when the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom steps down I will fully release the new source of energy to the United States of America .
    “…it shall come to pass that even in the soil of Florida and even out of this State connected with three other States, a great and a marvelous discovery shall come to pass.” (October 7, 2006)
    “…keep your eye on the tree, keep your eye on the tree. Keep your eye on a rock. And God says, between a rock and a hard place something shall come forth and they shall say, "but was this not something that Einstein spoke about?" For God says, yes, but was out of time and I had to take him before this could be revealed, but now is the time for the discovery and science shall suddenly understand the power of the spiritual force that is behind it.” (October 7, 2006)
    “When the prophet Elijah went to the home of the woman at Zarephath, the Spirit of God said you will find that there were a few things that she had, ingredients that she had: she had sticks, says the Spirit of God. She had stones, says the Spirit of God. She had water, she had oil, she had flour, she had soil. These are the same ingredients that I shall use to bring this Nation from dust to the highest place that it has ever been financially, says the Lord.” (October 7, 2006)
    Will come “from what you least expected”. (October 28, 2006)
    “Will make you (this Nation) independent and you shall send the Gospel throughout the earth again as you did before”. (October 28, 2006)
    “Look to the tree, for the tree is a sign of that which will come with the ‘E'”. (December 31, 2006)
    “The molecule as an ‘E'”. (December 31, 2006)
    “ A new source of energy shall suddenly emerge from the hollow, from nothing, from junk. Do not say it is ethanol. I'm about to surprise you and show this Nation that the claws of those that have stood in the Middle East and in South America that have said we will hold onto them, God says I will shake them off you.” (February 2, 2007)
    “ You have to see it in the Spirit so you can build in the natural.” (February 2, 2007)
    “Something significant is going to happen in this nation by a very insignificant event. God's going to take of your dust, He's going to take of your trash, He's going to take of your soil, He's going to take of your bugs something insignificant and make it the greatest source of energy for the world.” (February 3, 2007)

    --- Updated Information ---

    “…what's the big E, we know about ethanol God says No there's something else which came from Einstein that you're going to find out and this nation” (February 18, 2007)
    “For the year 2009 energy will have changed drastically. This Nation will have tapped into the "Big E" four times. Ethanol shall then be changed into another "coli" and then God said two more times and then there shall be a breakthrough in this Nation…” (April 4, 2007)
    “…i n the month of May there will be favorable exchanges” and “announcements”. (April 29, 2007)
    “ We are going to see and we are going to hear about God revealing something that He's going to bring from the sea that's going to prosper us…” (May 4, 2007)
    “Vengeance is in the sea. A battlefield in the under the waters, why? Because of the great wealth that shall come from the waters deep down…Hence you will see the battle in the sea.” (May 4, 2007)
    “ Oil, sticks, dirt, all of these components now to bring an abundance to the United States of America . Sticks, dirt, oil, water and the amalgamation…this nation shall speak of water; oil, dirt and the amalgamation shall bring an energy.” (May 4, 2007)
    Has something to do with “the whale, the octopus, and the dolphin”. (May 5, 2007)
    “…find the fish, for the wealth is in the fish.” (May 5, 2007)
    “… an emblem of the octopus. It has a star, it has something underneath it and this is an organization that shall arise.” (May 5, 2007)
    “… great will be the change with the energy crisis - for the motor industry…this that is going to happen shall come because of a global interruption.” (May 11, 2007)
    “ there will be a global event that will take place, that cause the motor industry to change so rapidly, and people will say ‘we thought it was coming to nothing' but look now…” (May 11, 2007)
    “this global interruption shall cause men to go to the board and say ‘why didn't we see it? it was already written there in the 50's, the 40's and the 50's. It was already somewhere in the thinking of mankind, of science.'” (May 11, 2007)
    “(God) will prove (Himself) by doing two unique things which shall become a global interruption.” (May 12, 2007)
    “there will be a discovery within the sea that shall cause a war and people will say we must war for this but it will be short lived. I will not allow them to take from this nation again because it's in your waters.” (May 20, 2007)
    “Energy is coming from the earth and the sea.” (May 27, 2007)
    “God says now the second one has been revealed. The second one has been revealed. It shall come from the sea, deep within the sea.” (May 27, 2007)
    “energy is in the sea, energy is in the dolphin, is in the whale.” (May 27, 2007)
    Speaking of the discovery in the sea: “ Down in Florida it began but God says on the pacific, the west coast, there is also great discovery.” (June 16, 2007)
    There will be “ an acceleration so that America would suddenly have five new sources of energy. There shall be five, not one, but five.” (June 16, 2007)
    “I (God) will cause My church to prosper first for I will give the patent to you for this day I have said I will secure it until I find a righteous man who will take it and say I have patented it for the kingdom of God .” (June 16, 2007)

  • At 5:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    April 4th...Ethanol shall then be changed into another "coli" I think this is the research that is going on right now to move us from using corn to cellulose to produce ethanol. Scientist are studying the bacteria (bugs) that live in the guts of various mammals and termites that eat a high cellulose diet to see how it is done.

  • At 7:14 PM, Anonymous Daniel said…

    Let's talk about what we do know.
    1. Five new sources.

    2. Ethanol is part of the mix, but not the whole thing. Basically, fuel derived from plant sources including all form of waste items.

    3. It may involve hydrogen, but that is speculation since the Lord does not specifically state it is so.

    4. Cars will be silent. Possibly electric. Which brings up the point, what will be the source of the electricity? Fuel cells? Perhaps, but right now they are very expensive. We need a break through to bring the cost down. Battery, likely as this is the direction the auto industry is moving. Remember it takes years to fully develop a technology.

    5. If one looks into Einstein, he had his fingers in many pies. He worked on the photovoltaic effect. Today we have solar cells as a result. Recently, there has been a great deal of improvement in the efficiency of solar cells. He also did a lot of work with atoms. Perhaps the Blacklight Power is the answer. If their theories hold true the technology would certainly revolutionize the world of power generation. Every nation every household could become energy independent. Perhaps the technology could be made small enough that it would fit inside a car. Who knows, at this time it is too early to say.

    6. Look to the west it is under your feet. This could mean two things. A) The western United States has enormous quantity of Geothermal energy. There are numerous companies working on this. Here are 2 of the biggest stock symbols: RZ ORA.
    B) The USA has the worlds largest deposit of oil shale. Up till now it has not been practical to harvest. There is one company, currently trading for 7 cents a share that has acquired several different technologies that combined will give them the technological edge over the competition. They will be using both hot gases and microwaves to heat the oil shale to get the oil out of the rock. There symbol is: ESSE

    7. The Lord talks about the ocean being a source of energy. There are numerous efforts going on to harvest the energy found in the action of the waves and tides. Right now there are many people trying this approach. Who does one invest in? The Lord also mentions various marine mammals. I don't think we will be going back to whaling any time soon to get their oil. So what do all these animals have in common. They all have to eat. If one traces down the food supply, algae is at the bottom. There is a great deal of research going on to grow algae as a source of bio-fuels. Again, out of the dozen publicly traded algae companies, which one do we invest in? Here are three that look promising, but risky :GGRN PSUD VCTPF None of them have a proven track record that they can make money.

  • At 9:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    E-Coli Bacteria Converts Waste Into Fuel:

    NOTE: E-Coli isn't the Big E, it's babysteps toward the real Big E: FUSION.

  • At 8:22 AM, Blogger Amos said…

    Bill gates has invested in a company that uses algae to produce a new source of energy. And if you remember God did say he'd reveal certain secrets to Bill Gates:

    Sept. 2006 Prophecies by Kim Clement
    For God says, "Watch now, watch now as I show you one of the men that have controlled the power of the internet and controlled the power of computers. I will show him something and it shall be a sign to you," says the Lord of Hosts. "PC, PC," God said, "please listen to Me: I will reveal it to him. It shall be a revelation. They shall say, 'But how can an ungodly man, not a man of God get so much truth?' You know why? Because he's the controller of the marketplace and he's made billions of dollars."

  • At 6:14 PM, Blogger sn said…

    October 15, 2008

    This is all pretty fascinating and what a blessing.

    I was wondering if people who leave comments would be willing to put the date of their comment, since this site only records time.

    Thank you, in advance!

  • At 9:31 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    Here is something to keep your eye out for. There is a company that has come up with a hydrogen generator that was initially used for stoves in restaurants. But a discovery was made whereby they could retrofit it to be used in a car. Check out this hyperlink.

    I agree with some who say that the “E” and the “big E” are two different things. E in my opinion is “cellulosic ethanol”. But it’s not just that. E represents the energy that comes from the outpouring of Gods spirit in the latter days. It manifests in a way that we will know it as many different forms of renewable energy. It’s kind of the physical counterpart to the spiritual energy that will come from Gods spirit. And it’s many faceted. However, and this is my opinion, without question cellulosic ethanol will be one of the many manifestations.

    The above company has been battling odds in bringing this to the world. Recently they joined hands with a company named “geac” that is into Hollywood productions. However, they have also said that the Hollywood aspect of their company would be placed on the backburner in pursuits of this hydrogen generator to be used in cars.

    The initial company was “Xynergy” ticker symbol But it entered into agreement with Geac ( which immediately changed its name to Hydrogenetics inc. ticker symbol

    That’s the best I can guess as to what the “big E” is.

    My advice is to monitor these websites looking for news. Don’t rambunctiously invest without a thorough investigation for yourself. But hey that might be it!

    When you click on the hyperlink make sure that the volume is turned up on your pc because the presentation has an audio component. Oh, and check out the guys name that is doing the analysis! LOL.

    This company, though its not based in Florida-to the best of my research-does have ties to Florida. So it meets a lot of the criteria and get this, I once saw a picture of the company and there was this huge piece of art work on in the front of it. It was a huge E turned over on its side, but it was kind of rounded. A friend of mine chuckled as I showed him the picture, without saying anything he said, “well look at that, a big E”. We cracked up. Of course that doesn’t mean anything but with God who knows.

    Oh, and there is some mystical tie with somebody high up in the company and the Ford motor company. But I don’t recall what it was.

    One way or another we’ll crack this thing won’t we?

    God bless

  • At 7:30 AM, Blogger s said…


    Denny, Thank you for your post and for adding the date. I listened to Kim Clement live online Saturday the 18th, from his studio. He was going over some of his earlier words and answering some emails. His main word, it seemed, was something about, "The raven will no longer feed the eagle." Interpretation, we, the United States=eagle, will no longer have to be fed by the middle east=the raven." Spoke about Thanksgiving of this year (hopefully meaning 2008) and important stuff by March 2009 (I'm pretty sure it was March but would help to double check or have others verify, too.)

    Here is what I recall about the energy.
    Some of the facts (most are not direct quotes--paraphrasing):

    ** 5 energy sources, already be using at least 4 sometime in the year 2009

    ** Something about a tree

    ** PC, PC, look to what the man who has controlled the internet is investing in...he will be given knowledge.

    ** The Big E

    ** Einstein was working on this

    ** Not ethanol

    ** Bugs, dirt, garbage

    ** direct quote: "Shall we create and design an engine in this way? And shall we design a plane in this way? And we shall not use this but we shall use another. And what about the air? What is in the air? What is in the sea? What is in the land? What is in the air? What is in the dolphin and the whale and the octopus? Listen, God says, America, get ready to stand upright again. I will cause my Church to prosper first for I will give the pattern to you. For this day I have said, I will secure it until I find a righteous man who will take it and say ‘I have patented it for the Kingdom of God, and it shall be given for God's work and God's work shall accelerate' says the Lord.”

    ** Pacific west and pacific - sounded like it could be one of the pacific west coast states, Washington, Oregon and/or California

    ** Something about Florida but not sure of the connection

    Tonight he mentioned that what people believe to be a recession, out of that will come the greatest economic boost our country has seen and our country will have one of the highest economies.

    On a personal note: For a few months, before ever hearing about Kim Clement, myself, I have had a strong interest in photographing trees. I have felt compelled and pulled to them, for some reason. I didn't think much of it. Then one day, while working as a nanny and driving the children home from vacation Bible school, I was stopped at a light and looked directly at a bumper sticker on a car which read, "Trees are the answer." The only reason why I thought this was odd was because of my recent strong desire to photograph trees. I laughed it off as a funny coincidence but kept on taking pictures of trees mostly. About a month and half later, I happened to visit a church I'd never gone to before, Jubilee Christian Fellowship in San Jose, CA on August 31, 2008. Kim Clement happened to be the guest that day and that was the first I'd ever heard of him. The day before, I believe it was the Lord who strongly put on my heart to 'not eat my seed.' I knew that meant to make sure to sow the seed and not eat it, so to speak.

    It has been a whirlwind since then. I have been researching Kim Clement and found out the information about the Big E, trees, PC, and a lot of the other words he's given.

    Here are a few links that have helped me so far, along with this board.

    One last thing. Bill Gates has recently invested a large amount of money in a company called Sapphire Energy. It is not trading publicly, yet and I don't know if it has plans to. I've emailed them as well as another company, LS9. LS9 has gotten back to me and said that they're not public, yet, but to keep looking to the media.

    These two companies are working on an e-coli (I think) that are basically like a bug that eats algae and produces energy.

  • At 8:25 AM, Blogger Amos said…


    Thanks for the info, Bill gates has been very much interested in energy of late but he's made some not so good investment decions though (in my own opinion), like with Pacific Ethanol. But you can tell what's been on his mind lately by looking at the investments his Cascade company is making and the things he's been saying in some of his interviews, such as this one were he talks about Cold Fusion:

    He has also spoken about String Theory, which is what Einstein was working on when he died.

    Einstein was using sting theory to try and come up with the Unified Field Theory or what's known today as the theory of everything (or mother of all theories). It's a theory that seeks to explain all the four fundamental forces of the universe; gravity,electromagnetism, & the weak and strong nuclear forces. One noteworthy thing about the Unified Field Theory is that it could lead to an unlimited source of energy. Hmmm!

    Bill Gates has also been to the Tar Sands in Canada, together with Warren Buffett, just to see the investment potential of the Oil platform being set up over there.

  • At 6:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Big E = E=mc2

    This new "undiscovered" energy will use antigravity to propel the vehicle, with no noise or fumes per Kims' Big E prophecies. Refer to Mr. FUSION in the movie "Back To The Future". Ethanol is the Alpha of Renewable Energy & Cold Fusion is the Omega(Ultimate Renewable Energy). Delve & use your imagination(Hope)to SEE by Faith what the prophet has been prophecying.

  • At 12:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Not to likely, Antigravity!

  • At 1:53 AM, Blogger Denny said…


    In reading the above posts (thank you) something that sticks in my craw is this. Can these things come forth in a timely manner as per Kim’ prophecy? Granted, he doesn’t really provide one, but can we really expect anti-gravity propulsion to come forward in the next…Whatever-soon?

    Until anonymous says that his first name is Kim, I feel I have the right to speculate. All things are possible, but when we can’t find a universal enzyme to produce Ethanol, can we really expect to see cold fusion or anti-gravity propulsion in the near future? I realize that God does miracles and boy would that be one! But could they bring it forth in a way that a person could invest in it in the next few years? I’ll cover myself by saying it can happen. But when Kim says that the inventions are already here, can it be that?

    Watch me be wrong. But I thought that Kim alluded to it being so simple that they kick themselves for not seeing it sooner. I guess “simple” should be relative to the minds of people like Bill Gates, but my impression was that it would be simpler than “string theory”.

    “The Einsteinian caze”. Isn’t it logical to think that extracting hydrogen from water might be Einsteinian? And, I did read a blog above where “anonymous”(one of them) said very affirmatively “it will not be a gas or a liquid”. But his name is still anonymous.

    FYI, there are parking lots that they’ve come up with whereby a person can recharge their electric cars that are being called “Solar trees”. It looks nothing like tree but if you look at the schematic drawings of it, they felt it looked enough like them for them to call them such. The roof is covered with solar panels.

    I guess that I’m talking to myself more than anybody but the “tree” as in “look to the tree” could be more that just Ethanol made from a poplar tree. And also, each expression could refer to a different type of energy. I guess what I’m saying is avoid my tendancy to lump all things into one.

    I assure you all that I’m hearing what you’re all saying. And anonymous, if you’re the masked man, please forgive me for speculating.

  • At 4:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Antigravity Propulsion & Fusion energy are an Einsteinian craze as can easily be seen in the movie "Back To The Future".

    "From your sea and from your water and from your land shall come energy(cold fusion will be powered by salt water when its' secret code is revealed). I shall cause your vehicles to rise above the tar. I shall cause you vehicles to go above and there will not be the smell and the stench of tires".

    This prophecy is reffering to what Einstein & Tesla referred to as Antigravity Propulsion that would propel the entire vehicle, kinda like "The Jetson's" cartoon.'s_Dynamic_Theory_of_Gravity

  • At 11:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "this is an Einsteinian craze" but it shall come from something that Einstein was discovering and bringing forth, but before his time, therefore I had to remove him. This is the time where discovery shall bring a new source of energy and it shall start in this Nation, says the Lord. Do not say, "Einstein, what about God?" God said, I worked wonders but now some of THE (FUSION-ANTIGRAVITY) THEORIES SHALL BECOME FACT..."
    Fusion > A brief history of fusion research - The first clues to how stars function were revealed in Einstein’s equation E = mc2(E=mc2 IS BIG E), which predicted that a tiny amount of mass could, in principle, be converted into a tremendous amount of energy.

  • At 12:11 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…

    Kim Clement is off the hook! Did you know that he is prophecying that McCain and Sarah are going to win the presidential race? If I can interpret that, someone should be able to interpret this Big E madness. Come on people, work with me!

  • At 2:13 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…

    After thinking about it for a minute and doing a little research on the internet, I discovered that cold fusion IS dead (at least in the scientific world). However, we as Christinas serve a mighty God, don't we? If Jesus can resurrect someone from the dead, we can pray that cold fusion can be resurrected too, can't we?

    These are just my thoughts, and I have not had the time yet to research anti- pulsating light beams, or whatever that other Einstein thingy mentioned above was(just kidding, anti-gravity something), as I just finished with my conclusion of cold fusion or should I say, cold confusion... Ha ha ha!
    Okay, my brain is starting to work over time, and that means it is time to cut, copy and paste it out of here. Oh ya, I am on a roll with the jokes, ain't? Now I am goin to roll on out of here!

    However, before I go... Cold confusion, Iraq is Babylon, Babylon means confusion, the Anti-Christ will control Babylon... I wonder if there are any connections... Hummmm.

  • At 9:39 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…

    Don't u just hate typos?

    "...we as Christinas"... (Christians)

    "...on a roll with the jokes, ain't?"... (ain't I?)

    That is a cell phone post for u though, right?

  • At 5:03 PM, Blogger Denny said…

    Timothy, I think that it’s great that your keeping things light hearted with the jokes. Keep up the good work.

    However, the conclusion that you came to that Kim is prophesying that McCain and Palin will win; well I just don’t know. There is a utube out there where he mentions names saying “it will not be Mcain, Obama, Huckuby, Ron” etc.

    I honestly don’t know. In one prophecy he says (paraphrased) “what’s this, I hear an independent in the Whitehouse”? And on top of that he says that many people will be disappointed right down to fear coming upon people as a result of what happened. He continues to say that we the believers will be needed to impart comfort to the people who are so disheartened. How can that be if either of them win?

    He speaks of a spiritual “death” that will occur. Maybe the death of dreams for both candidates, and their followers? I honestly don’t know. I thought it was very clear that he was saying that an independent would win but now I have not a clue. The whole thing is enshrouded in a mystery.

    FYI, are you aware that on his website there was posted a story about a cancer doctor who had found a way of producing hydrogen from water? It was even demonstrated. It’s probably still there. That’s why I lean to it being hydrogen from water. Otherwise why would he post in on his website? But then maybe he honest to God doesn’t know.

    One last thing, he did say something like “can a praying woman change the nation”? Once again I paraphrase. I have not a clue if that pertained to the election or a strong move of the spirit amongst women.

  • At 7:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Cold Fusion isn't dead because it never was. IT'S A THEORY!
    "I worked wonders but now some of THE THEORIES SHALL BECOME FACT..."

    FYI: Cellulosic ethanol or anything else in existence isn't a theory. (Big)E=mc2, string theory, cold fusion, anti-gravity, relativity of time, zero-point energy, etc. are all einsteinian "craze" THEORIES. You're going to have to delve and use your imagination to SEE what the prophet is SEEING.

    QUESTION: What production car holds the World speed record and is coming out with a "green" prototype by March 2009 that'll run 2-years without recharging on a revolutionary green technology. Could this be the company that merges with Ford?

  • At 9:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


    This prophecy is being fulfilled right now - TODAY!

    "The STRENGTH OF THE DOLLAR shall come because of the STRENGTH of THE SPIRITUAL LIFE in this nation. WATCH ME TAKE POSSESSION OF WALL STREET says the Spirit of the Lord".

    "I WILL INTRODUCE MYSELF STARTING IN WALL STREET and going through the Stock Exchange and on the Northeast of America to the Midwest down to the South I will introduce Myself as the STRENGTH of this nation again, says the Lord of Hosts!"

    Oil falls below $71 as DOLLAR GAINS on euro, OPEC production cut still weighs

    Dollar Strength:

  • At 9:53 PM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…

    Denny, that sound like the YouTube video I posted on the web:

    Kim Clement on presidential race, the White House and so on

    I admit, you can't tell much from the video, but here is an excerpt from his vault that sealed the deal for me:

    June 21, 2008 - San Jose, CA

    "And when there shall be the change of hands, there will be the change of arms in this country as you know. And when your new President comes in, they will say, "what of the age? What of the age? Will one die in office?" God said, it matters not, for I will bring civility because I will take three of your enemies and make them your footstool. I will take three of your enemies and I will make them your friends, says the Lord of Hosts, for there's going to be tremendous discoveries in the soil of the ancient China and God said, rejoice for tonight you are hearing the mysteries and the secrets about America. I am planning great things for you, says the Lord!"

    To me, it does not get any clear then this and I don't need anymore prophecies to confuse me. He is clearly prophesying that John McCain and Sarah Palin are going to win the election. Hey, whether or not they do, only God knows. I do believe though that it IS God's will they do win and that is why I am even taking the time to post this right now and all the time I have spent on the Internet researching about this upcoming election.

    My only point was that if I can figure THIS out, one of us should be able to figure out the Big E. I am not going to get paid for figuring out who is going to win election, but perhaps if one of use figured out the Big E, we could all share in the wealth.

    God bless!

  • At 10:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Take a look at this company. They are located in Florida and they are working on a licensed hydrogen technology from these guys who are also based in Florida.

  • At 2:08 PM, Blogger Amos said…

    22 October 2008

    Great analysis Timothy. Let's do our best guys to make sure this community is the 1st to crack the Big E mystery. There's a great reward for it. We can start of by stating the facts that cannot be argued against, that everybody would agree to, and then come up with all the possibilities that meet each and every one of those facts. Thus the facts would form a criteria base that all our assumptions & ideas will have to conform to before being considered candidates for the Big E.

    For example, here are some of the facts i can think of right now:

    The Big E is a new source of energy.

    It will come from the garbage, trash, ground, dust, dirt, soil, sticks, water, stones, paper, bugs & what they eat, etc.

    It shall come from something that Einstein was discovering and bringing forth, but before his time.

    It is something very unusual that was buried decades ago with Einstein.

    It is something that Einstein saw and will become a practicality and a fact.

    It's something that came from Einstein that we're going to find out.

    It is something that Einstein saw before he died and will be revealed in this day and age, in the energy crisis.


    It is a molecule - The molecule as a "E" a new source of energy that we have spoken of now to be unfolded, a discovery in a vehicle from Michigan, they shall say it was so simple.
    December 31, 2006 - San Jose, CA

  • At 2:45 PM, Blogger Amos said…

    According to the 7 facts mentioned above, E=mc2 definitely meets the set criterion but Cold fusion does not. What do u think?

  • At 4:00 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    Timothy, I hate to do this to you, I hear where you’re coming from and agree with you with all of my heart. But this is something that he said. Please forgive me for making things difficult.

    7-14-07 from Nashville TN

    What is this that I hear, an independent that arises – a switch in power? God says listen, righteousness shall prevail in the streets of America and in the White House nothing will be determined without My counsel. They shall plan but ultimately it is I says the Lord that will determine the outcome. There will be a very strange move of My Spirit amongst the children of this nation. Come to me like a little child and I will raise you up. There will be praise in summer. There will be rain in summer. There will be joy in summer. I'll send the rain and the wind. The spirits of men will pray, the spirits of men will rejoice it's the end of a season the beginning of something, everyone's been waiting for. America your greatest hour is upon you.

    Maybe this switch in power refers to Nashville. I hope that you’re right. But when I first read this I thought that it referred to the president.

    In the context of Kim’s prophecy’ it’s not a stretch to say that maybe “independent” is a metaphor for a person who does Gods will, but when I first read it, it sounded like something literal.

    I simply don’t know and apologize in advance for roiling the waters and causing confusion.

    I think that it’s best that we all cover ourselves by being real humble. I simply don’t know.

    Thank you Amos and Anonymous. We WILL be the ones who spot it first!

    I'll check out that Florida company.

  • At 8:06 PM, Blogger sn said…

    22 Oct 2008

    just putting the date in so i can keep track of new comments.

  • At 10:34 PM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…



    I just created a post for you and anyone else (any where on the web, not just people on this site) who may be concerned about the accuracy of my interpretation. You can find it here:

    Kim Clement Prophesying McCain and Palin Winning Presidential Election

    It is really raw, but I will see if I can address the prophecy above that you just mentioned. That way, people can continue to discuss the real reason of THIS blog (the Big E) without any distractions. Thanks and God bless America!

    Timothy P. Shields

  • At 12:18 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…



    Well it appears I was right after all. Someone wrote this on my YouTube video (Kim Clement on presidential race, the White House and so on):

    divine137 (1 hour ago)

    "what does this have to do with Kim Clement already clearly prophecying that McCain will be President? Kim said on Saturday that the Lord told him its McCain and that that prophecy you talkin bout is just tellin us that God loves Obama 'too'. But he clarified McCain is goin to be President. He said they will say "He has HOT BLOOD...What of the AGE? Will one die in office?...He FOUGHT FOR YOU IN YOUR NIGHTS...a WOMAN will bring the Spirit to the political office...VP will take over land.."

  • At 2:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Just noted there is a company Enveneeco out there.

  • At 4:04 AM, Blogger Denny said…

    WHOA! That last post was incredible. Thank you.

    Ironically it even says "The big E" when you plug the name Enveneeco into Google.

    Unless they are all KC supporters at their company. Now that's interesting.

  • At 4:15 AM, Blogger Denny said…


    Devine137, are you talking about the podcast? Myself and one other were having technical difficulty's thoughout the entire podcast. Is that what we missed? Or was it a different forum?

  • At 4:23 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…



    I posted Devine137's comment. She made that comment on my YouTube video yesterday. Sorry for the confusion (seems like the devil is having a field day).

  • At 5:06 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…


    Steering Through the Economic Crisis - God's Perspective

    I was just sent this Kim Clement video, it is kind of long, but it seems kind of interesting and very applicable. I don't have a lot of time at the moment to watch it all, and don't know how long this video will be available, but I am sure someone on here should be able to get something out of it.

  • At 2:58 PM, Blogger sn said…

    23 October 2008

    Hi, all:

    I've been looking into Enveneeco for the past couple of months and noticed, too, that their motto is The Big E. From what I can tell, they're not trading publicly, yet.

    There are a lot of facts about the Big E and we're all posting bits and pieces of the facts but I wonder if there is a way to compile all of the facts in one post and be able to cross-check to make sure that we're not on a wild goose chase. For instance, KC declared that it is NOT ethanol...does that mean also cellulosic ethanol?

    He spoke about five different sources, four of which will be in use by/during (?) 2009.

    When you go to KC's vault, there is the ability to do a key word search that brings up all of the prophecies containing that word or words.

    I have been listening to stock talks and have heard that if Obama were elected, he would be strong on biofuels, if McCain, he's big on hydrogen and oil from our land. Either way, I think our country and it's leaders our on the right path and this falls into alignment with KC's words regarding energy. Our country is looking for viable solutions. Again, don't forget about Ford and the word given regarding them. Their stock is in the two dollar range...very cheap. Actually, i just took a look and it's $1.98 right now. Interesting times we're in.

    To God be the glory!

  • At 3:10 PM, Blogger Amos said…

    I agree, that's why i said earlier we should come up with a comprehensive list of facts we can use to cross check all the possible contenders for the Big E. Read my post above.

    If everybody can submit facts they feel are unquestionable & undeniable then somebody else can compile them all into one and post that here for everybody else to see. Using fact alone it's actually quite easy to see that neither Ethanol nor Cold Fusion is the big E.

  • At 4:38 PM, Blogger sn said…

    Here is a link to where KC is actually discussing his own words with verification/validation and back-up of newspaper articles.

    I'm going to attempt to compile a list of the facts in as simple a form as possible. If anyone want to verify them, they can go to his website to the prophecies and do a word search. This might take me some time but i will post as soon as i am able to gather as much as i can find.

  • At 4:40 PM, Blogger sn said…'s the post from the above comment:

  • At 2:50 AM, Blogger Denny said…


    I’m posting one last thing about the election because I think it will vindicate the prophet.

    I posted the prophecy about Kim saying, (paraphrased) “what’s this that I hear a independent arising”? I thought it was a literal independent.

    Anyone who follows Kim knows that he claims to get his prophecy from metaphoric pictures that come to him that he articulates to the best of his ability. Well in thinking about the word independent the other night I asked myself could that be one of his spiritual metaphors that has a different synonym when the prophecy is fulfilled? Are there any words that jive with the word Independent that we hear quite often in relation to the elections?

    How about MAVERIC?

    Just a thought.

  • At 3:06 AM, Blogger sn said…

    24 October 2008

    Interesting thoughts.

    I just looked up the word maverick using an online dictionary: Here's one of the definitions for it:

    mav⋅er⋅ick   /ˈmævərɪk, ˈmævrɪk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [mav-er-ik, mav-rik] Show IPA Pronunciation

    2. a lone dissenter, as an intellectual, an artist, or a politician, who takes an 'independent' stand apart from his or her associates.

    From anothe dictionary site:

    A maverick is a person who shows independence of thought or action, a non-conformist or rebel.

    We shall see. Comforting thought:
    "The earth is the LORD's, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it." (Psalm 24:1, NIV)

  • At 3:59 AM, Blogger sn said…

    Has anyone come up with any companies/stock symbols that might correlate to any of this? I know that there were a few mentioned a couple of years ago. PEIX, VSE, etc. Are there any new ones that might fit some of the words given?

    I posted earlier about Sapphire Energy and LS9 but they're not trading publicly, yet, and I'm not sure if they will. Bill Gates has invested a lot into Sapphire Energy and he sounds like the "PC, PC" man who has controlled the internet that KC spoke about receiving knowledge and to look to see what he's investing in.

    Those two companies kind of fit some of the possibilities about bugs, sea (algae) would algae be inside of a dolphin? That was part of a word given...look inside the sea, inside the dolphine, inside the whale (i think it was whale) and octopus.

    I'm working on a comprehensive list but it gets complicated. I thought about just using keywords that pertain to the big E but then I end up copying direct and lengthy sentances from the prophecies. Is anyone else working on compiling a list of the facts?

  • At 2:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Anyone have any thoughts on the ludicrous speed computer KC spoke of that would revolutionize the interner. I googled ludicrous speed and a company called Nano has a chip they call ludicroud speed or is this the pc pc speaking of Bill Gates?? Maybe there a potential to invest in this new chip?

  • At 4:14 PM, Blogger Amos said…

    24 October 2008

    I'm in the IT industry and i've been thinking about that as well. It's nice to know i'm not alone in this. One of the prophecies mentions that the super fast computer will not be affected by viruses, and another prohecy talks about how the technology will allow people to communicate in an instant over long distances, and that it'll come from the Church coz God's gonna give the Church people that are so sharp and the church will benefit 1st from the technology.

    All this sounds to me like Quantum computing. It allows instant communication between 2 computers no matter how far apart they are, even light years apart, using something called entanglement or what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance."

    Regarding the speed, let me just give a simple illustration. Whereas our ordinary computers would search for a name in a phone book or directory by looking at each entry one at a time, a Quantum computer would search by going through each and every entry in the directory simultaneously. That makes it exponentially faster than any computer there is out there.

    That's ludicrous speed for you. If you want you can do some research on an upstart company called D-Wave & find out what their doing with this technology.

  • At 5:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Well thanks for the info Amos, thats very interesting.

    What about Ford sticks right now, it's a great time to buy, them since all the words about The Big 'E' tie into the words about Ford shouldn't this be a pretty clear investment for us? I'm alone on this thought?

  • At 5:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    opps ment Ford Stocks

  • At 6:01 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    My perception on things is this. It’s very clear to me that things haven’t gelled yet in terms of the energy picture. To me that says hold off for now.

    Kim referred to two great men of God going to be with the lord, THEN it shall happen. Again he also says that it will be in the summer. So unless you’re convicted on your own to move in a certain investment direction, I would hold off.

    But no, you’re not the only one thinking about Ford as a potential investment. I just think that at the time the signs will be all around us.

  • At 6:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Good Point Thank you
    I didn't know about the fact that two great men of God will go to be with the Lord.

  • At 6:56 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    I would like to post a caveat to what I just posted about holding off on investing in the Ford motor company.

    Please do a word search on the word “interruption” in Kim’s vault. Kim says that there will be a “global interruption” that affects the motor city. The interesting thing is that he mentions the month of October.

    Could this be the “interruption” that he’s talking about? This shock to the stock market? It’s global.

    Somehow I was impressed that it was relative to an oil disruption. But then I’m the guy who thought that he was referring to a literal “independent” becoming president vs. a maverick.

    In studying Kim’s May prophecy’ you may conclude that the time is sooner then later.

    If something happens “in one days time” I would hate for someone to miss it on my account.

    Also, someone may comment on weather or not this is the “interruption” that Kim referred to. Different eyes may see different things.

  • At 1:26 PM, Blogger sn said…

    In response to two great men of God. I found this earlier word from 11/11/06:

    "The Spirit of God says, even as Billy Graham dies, I will raise up two of him. I will raise up two of "Billy Graham" says the Lord. God said, your soil surrendered him to Me and so shall your soil receive him. For the Spirit of God says, I will raise up two great men, no - one man and one woman, again from this soil. And God said, evangelism shall take place through the news media and the arts and in the business arena for I will cause my servant, Billy Graham, to come into the place that he has spoken of all of his life. The Spirit of God says, I will receive My servant, Graham. God says, there will be a graduation, everything he spoke about he shall experience. Do not be sad people for in the day that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord high and lifted up. In the day that this King dies, yes he is a King, says the Lord, Billy Graham. In the day that he dies, the eyes of the prophets shall see the Lord high and lifted up. The prophetic shall gain a new dimension of sight. Please do not be sad people. God says, when King Billy Graham dies, there shall be a new level of sight, a dimension of sight that the Body of Christ has never seen. Do not say, "but is he this denomination and that?" God said, two shall be raised up who shall become two nations and forces and those that shall come from the world shall thank you. They shall say, "thank you."

    That's one great man of God. Not sure about the other. There are great words of comfort in this word about Billy Graham if this is truth.

  • At 2:50 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    Nov 18 2006 Humble TX

    In this prophecy at the bottom of the page is where you hear of a great prosperity coming to the body of Christ upon the departure of a beloved man of God.

    Certainly that doesn’t mean that we can’t be blessed before hand. But all things seem to swirl around the same central theme, that being the new source of energy. But if one has heard Kim saying something that would trump this then be obedient to the prophet.

    Apparently there are some prophecy’ that I haven’t heard nor can I find in the vault. So use your own good judgment.

  • At 2:57 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    Also, May 3rd 2006 Orange County Cal.

    He mentions this summer of departure.

  • At 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What to do people, what to do.....

  • At 11:38 PM, Blogger sn said…

    Don't know if this might have anything to do with some of the words about pacific west and trees but here's a link about turning trees into fuel. The location is the Pacific...pacificic west, even?

  • At 1:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Bio fuels go the next step

  • At 10:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Look for new energy sources that are "Theory" trying to become fact. You can find "Theory" based energies trying to become fact at these websites:

    Einstein's Theories:

    E=mc2 is a energy "Theory" trying to become fact.

  • At 3:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "By March of 2009 it will be a complete opposite to what it is now, says the Lord. There will be a new vehicle that will emerge from Ford as it joins forces with another motor company. It shall be something that shall stand next to every European car".

    Cars That Never Have To Stop For Fuel Or Recharge Coming Out In March 2009:

    NOTE: Look for a motor company like these to merge with Ford by March 2009.

  • At 4:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Christian Investing Website:

  • At 4:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    New Energy Source: Hydrogen > Blacklight Power >
    Video Regarding Rowan University Validation of Blacklight Power System (wmv) - Video shows experimental set-up and sumarizes the data derived from several months of testing. Presently, the phenomenon shows up as very short duration bursts of heat that have no conventional explanation. The engineering task now is to produce continous power from the 200x burst. (Blacklight Power; Oct. 24, 2008)

    NOTE: This company doesn't fit all of Big E's prophecies because it isn't located in the Pacific West.

  • At 6:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The molecule as a "E" a new source of energy that we have spoken of now to be unfolded, a discovery in a vehicle from Michigan, THEY SHALL SAY IT WAS SO SIMPLE.

    Zero Point Energy Molecule "Theory", Saviour Of Mankind:;topicseen

    This concept was first proposed by Albert Einstein and Otto Stern in 1913:

  • At 7:30 PM, Blogger Mandy said…

    I love the dialog on this post and it amazes me each time I see another comment. A lot of the science is well over my head, but I am still as excited about the prophecies and all that God said is coming in the realm of energy as I was when I first posted this post.

    Interesting article in the AP today about collecting methane gas from landfills at the 1-E site in New Jersey! There is a lot that has already come to pass concerning the big E and clearly much more that is to come.

    Here is the link.

  • At 8:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Think On These Things:

    "What people believe to be a recession, out of that will come the greatest economic boost our country has seen and our country will have one of the highest economies". - KIM CLEMENT

    "Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy only when others are fearful." - Warren Buffet

    "On October 8th, the Spirit spoke through me saying that "TODAY" the restoration had begun. HE SAID THERE WOULD BE A MAJOR TURN OF EVENTS BETWEEN NOW AND THANKSGIVING and that we were to speak to this storm that has come upon us, and steer the crisis. Despite the negative predictions of misguided voices in the media, we continued to prophesy in the face of the darkness". - Kim Clement

    "THEN WATCH IN NOVEMBER - IT SHALL BE MONTH FULL OF SURPRISES how I will swiftly change things around so that you will go into the new year with great shouts of victory, says the Lord! For this is the season of growth, this is the season of growth! This is the season of growth!" - Kim Clement

    "An era of expansion and growth has begun. THIS NATION WILL SUDDENLY HAVE A CHANGE IN ITS' ECONOMY BECAUSE OF INCREDIBLE BREAKTHROUGHS AND DISCOVERIES. Because of this nations will be even more jealous. So get use to it America, you better get acquainted with it. You’re going to be the provokers because of the prosperity and the spiritual prosperity that God is about to bring upon you" - Kim Clement


    "Long Term-Leveraged NASDAQ Calls will steer this dynamic financial crisis called a recession to our advantage(Judo), uncovering its' hidden opportunity". - Anonymous

  • At 5:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Cars That Never Have To Stop For Fuel Or Recharge Coming Out In March 2009:

    "By March of 2009 it will be a complete opposite to what it is now, says the Lord. There will be a new vehicle that will emerge from Ford as it joins forces with another motor company. It shall be something that shall stand next to every European car".

    This is very interesting, I keep asking is Ford the stock to buy into? The Big 'E' is a tough one to pin point, But God cleary speaks of Ford many times in Kim's words, I think this one is right infront of us and we're over thinking or anylising it. The stocks are so cheap right and if Ford merges and produces this car it could make alot of poeple money fast.

  • At 2:41 AM, Blogger Amos said…

    29 October 2008

    I agree. Ford is one company we should be considering seriously and i certainly will. The stock is just so cheap right now for a company that great and with that much potential.

  • At 2:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    thanks everyone for the great insight and diligence... has anyone compiled a list of other sites that are also diligent in prayerfully following the e prophesy stuff... knowledge is power, but God is the ultimate power behind all knowledge, and i hope we all are mindful and prayerful with the right intent so that we can capture this move of God for Kingdom building... God will fulfill His Word for His bride and for His kingdom... God be glorified through your Word and Your church and open the windows of heaven on your people and be glorified...

    Lets continue to seek His Kingdom and His righteousness and watch as He adds the increase... to God be the glory... thanks and God bless you all...

    ps. i am moving on Ford and keeping my ear to the wind...
    thanks again ... marty.

  • At 4:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I was scrolling through some other post and saw this which jumped out at me, does any have any insight on this, what or how it works? I don't know very much about the stock market or Nasdaq
    Has anyone else been putting Kim Clements' NASDAQ prophetic pieces together: "SUDDENLY, I will do some unusual things where you will SUDDENLY make money, I will cause it to increase and go higher, NASDAQ rise to its' highest place ever, Something Like This Has Never Happened Before, Look To August, September, October For A Miracle In The Stock Market & Banking, People will run, run, run(He's referring to the banking/credit crisis here), Let the wrong people run(People that listen to prognostication), You will not run for you shall have something that you will speak about for the rest of your life, I will give you a testimony" - KIM CLEMENT QUOTES

    WOW: That's going to be quite a "SOMETHING" that would cause you to "SPEAK ABOUT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE"!

    Buy this NASDAQ(QQQQ) call option for $10/each per Kims' NASDAQ prophecies:

    SIDENOTE: Should the NASDAQ go to its' "higher place" as prophesied by Kim Clement, the above $10 call will be worth at least a $1,000 or more.

  • At 4:37 PM, Blogger s said…

    Anonymous: Do you know how to purchase call options? I read that but have no clue how to proceed in that area.

  • At 5:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I don't either, I don't even know what they are? I did send an email to a guy I know who trades and hopefully he will get back to me.

  • At 5:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Here's a link to Wilkipedia explaining what a call option is. I just skimmed it briefly, I have to digest it a bit more to understand it.

  • At 5:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Below is a easyier way to understand it.

    'Trader A' (Call Buyer) purchases a Call contract to buy 100 shares of XYZ Corp from 'Trader B' (Call Writer) at $50/share. The current price is $45/share, and 'Trader A' pays a premium of $5/share. If the share price of XYZ stock rises to $60/share right before expiration, then 'Trader A' can exercise the call by buying 100 shares for $5,000 from 'Trader B' and sell them at $6,000 in the stock market.
    Trader A's total earnings (S) can be calculated at $500.
    Sale of 100 stock at $60 = $6,000 (P)
    Amount paid to 'Trader B' for the 100 stock bought at strike price of $50 = $5,000 (Q)
    Call Option premium paid to Trader B for buying the contract of 100 shares @ $5/share, excluding commissions = $500 (R)


  • At 2:43 AM, Blogger sn said…

    29 October 2008

    Anonymous: Thank you for being kind to post the information about the options. It's going to take me a couple of reads to wrap my head around the information but i think that i'm beginning to have a slight understanding.

    By the way, Kim Clement is going to be speaking live again this coming weekend. Is anyone planning on listening Nov. 2 & Nov. 3 on the following link?

  • At 1:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Here is the respond from my Investor friend, keep in mind he's speaking from a wordly point of view, not with the Holy Spirit or revaltion from God, We as Christians walk in faith and what and not by the natural. Faith can seem risky!!

    I think the quadruple Q's are an exchange traded fund (ETF) of the Nasdaq exchange. The Nasdaq is made up of primarily technology companies and this is a fund of those companies --- obviously it is very diversified and a tech play. The QQQQ's are not a bad play on technology. The WDAB.X seems to be a call option to buy QQQQ in 2010 at $80. I don't feel comfortable with options because they are very high risk ---- therefore huge potential gains and/or losses. It's usually an all or nothing kind of investment

  • At 2:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "Long Term-Leveraged NASDAQ Calls will steer this dynamic financial crisis called a recession to our advantage(like judo), uncovering its' hidden opportunity". - Anonymous

    Best NASDAQ Call To Buy For $11 Before The Elections:

    QQQQ Jan 2010 60.0000 call(OPR: WDAU.X)
    Last Trade: 0.11($11)
    Trade Time: 2:21PM ET
    Change: 0.02 (22.22%)
    Prev Close: 0.09
    Open: 0.11
    Bid: 0.09
    Ask: 0.13
    Day's Range: 0.11 - 0.11
    Contract Range: 0.08($8) - 7.55($755)
    Volume: 5
    Open Interest: 43,745
    Strike: 60.00
    Expire Date: January 15, 2010

    NOTE: Should the economy stay the same, Obama gets elected. McCain/Pailin need a "SUDDENLY" to change the economy on Monday to get elected. Kim will be making a "special" broadcast on Monday regarding the election. Did you notice that nobody talks about Iraq anymore because of Kims' Peace Prophecy that's being fulfilled...

  • At 11:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


    Peter didn't sow money when he said "Silver & gold have I none but what I do have I give unto you". I'm sowing a million-dollar pledge into various ministries with what I do have. FEEL FREE TO DO THE SAME...

    "Now if anybody wants to become VERY RICH, get ready because the stock market's gonna open up. NASDAQ is opening up. There are things opening up in the public places that God says I'm gonna pour out and give to you what rightfully belongs to you IF YOU WANT IT!",%20get%20ready

    "On October 8th, the Spirit spoke through me saying that "TODAY" the restoration had begun. He said there would be a major turn of events between now and Thanksgiving and that we were to speak to this storm that has come upon us, and steer the crisis. Despite the negative predictions of misguided voices in the media, we continued to prophesy in the face of the darkness".

    TBN, GodTV, Daystar, ETC.: To get VERY RICH from this NASDAQ prophecy, buy this NASDAQ Call before Thanksgiving:

    HERE'S MY MILLION DOLLAR PLEDGE TO YOUR MINISTRY: Invest $10,000 into this NASDAQ Call before the elections & by Christmas time you'll have a Million Dollars and become VERY RICH!

  • At 12:32 AM, Blogger Denny said…

    Allow me to add my two cents to the talk about options trading. I too am an options trader and have been blessed since the mild turn around in the markets lately.

    What I can add from my observations is this. When I first heard the term “call option” I though of "call" in the sense of calling Scottrade to have them do something for me. That’s not what “call” means in this context.

    Imagine playing pool and saying seven ball in the corner pocket. It’s in essence “calling” the shot. For people who can do it, the pay off is incredible because you working with contracts of one hundred shares of stock without actually having to buy them. It’s low risk in this sense: you only loose the money that you paid for the price of the option contract. People have called them risky. They are risky because only about ten to twenty percent are ever exercised. Why would that be? Options only help you when the stock goes up-obviously. But if you look at the risks of owing a stock in this market as compared to owning a options contract, personally, I feel that options are a way to potential explosive growth with limited risk that being loosing the price of the contact which is a fraction-sometimes-to what you would otherwise pay.

    PEOPLE, OPTIONS ARE THE WAY TO GO. But once again, you can loose money. In this last down turn you could have brought two thousand dollars down to nothing. If you’re like me who’s not rich yet, that would be a tremendous hit. With options you can call the shot and even set the time limit as to when you think that the price will get there. If your unclear as to when the market will move in favor of your stock, you could cover yourself by buying an options contract several months out.

    If you want practically exponential growth, take the time to read some articles about options. They are the way to get rich fast. However, THE STOCK NEEDS TO GO UP. Otherwise you can’t capitalize on the inherent aspect of controlling contracts of one hundred shares vs. one share-the standard way of trading.

    The word “leverage” comes in because you can utilize all of your “options” if you know that future good news is about to break. In this case the fulfillment of the prophetic word which is surly to come to pass-which is what I believe.

    Just call your brokerage firm and ask them to set you up for options. You’ll need to fill out a form and may have to have a certain amount of money in the account. I don’t think that Scottrade demanded that of me. Then once set up you’ll go to an options chain, which can be kind of intimidating but is not. If I can understand it ANYBODY can understand it. I mean it. Then you in essence place a bet on what the stock is going to do in the next days, weeks, months etc. JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU CHOOSE THE PROPER TIME FRAME. That was the only mistake that I’ve made. Contracts expire on the third Friday of the month and my first “call” was done about a week before expiration. Oh well, live and learn (Scottrade, as a courtesy monitors contracts and will close them for you if you’ve made any money at all on them).

    It sounds like you have a lot of big brothers out here on this site. If you have questions just ask and one of us will help out in anyway possible. I don’t know it all but already I’ve experienced the multiplied growth that comes with options trading. AND DON’T’ HESITATE TO GET SET UP. It almost sounds like something big is going to happen in the markets before Thanksgiving. But that’s my take, please don’t hold me accountable.

    Also, a lot of people are recommending the stock QQQQ, am I missing something? Why would that stock have anything to do with this board? If somebody’s got some coy way of thinking, I’m all game to hear it. But I don’t see the relevance of that stock unless it’s just a take on “the NASDAQ is going to move up”. Maybe that’s what it is.

    Just be careful as always you can loose money.

  • At 1:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    --------- IF YOU WANT IT ---------

    Now if anybody wants to become very rich, get ready because the stock market's gonna open up. NASDAQ is opening up. There are things opening up in the public places that God says I'm gonna pour out and give to you what rightfully belongs to you IF YOU WANT IT!" - Kim Clement

    A man came to an ancient philosopher desiring to learn wisdom. The philosopher took the man out into a river and then suddenly wrestled him down under the water. Just at the point of drowning him, the wise philosopher hauled him out again and said, “Now, what did you say you wanted?”
    The poor guy was just gasping and wheezing, begging for air. “Well, when you want wisdom as much as you want to breathe,” the philosopher told him, “then you shall have it.” -Anonymous

  • At 2:46 AM, Blogger Amos said…

    31 October 2008

    Kim Clement prophecy: October 26, 2008 - Huntsville, TX

    God says you'll no longer be fed your energy from the Middle East and from those that have taken and eaten dead bodies. I'm going to change it and I promised it. The Big E shall arise and it will arise quickly. America, look to your Thanksgiving with great joy as you see the statistics change. And say God You have shown up, You are showing off, You are taking all the credit. God's saying, Yes I will, yes I will says the Lord.

    The Big E is about to come to pass.

  • At 11:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


    Thanks for your insight, I'm pretty green with all of this, is there any way to contact you in person to help me better understand all of this?


  • At 11:57 AM, Blogger sn said…

    Has anyone gotten any closer to knowing what stocks would fit the big E and when we should invest in them?

    I'm still searching and am hopeful. Please, post any stock symbols that you think might have something to do with the energy sources. I'll post mine, too.


  • At 1:08 PM, Blogger sn said…

    31 Oct '08

    date is just for reference

  • At 7:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "America, look to your Thanksgiving with great joy as you see the STATISTICS change".,%20look%20to%20your%20Thanksgiving%20with%20great%20joy%20as%20you%20see%20the%20statistics%20change.


    Monday 9:00 AM CT November 03,2008 Construction Spending
    Monday 9:00 AM CT November 03,2008 ISM Manufacturing Index
    Monday November 03,2008 Domestic Car/Truck Sales
    Tuesday 6:45 AM CT November 04,2008 ICSC Weekly Chain Store Sales
    Tuesday 7:40 AM CT November 04,2008 Johnson Redbook Retail Sales Index
    Tuesday 9:00 AM CT November 04,2008 Factory Orders
    Wednesday 6:30 AM CT November 05,2008 Challenger Employment Survey
    Wednesday 9:00 AM CT November 05,2008 ISM Non-Manufacturing Index
    Wednesday 9:30 AM CT November 05,2008 API / EIA Energy Stks
    Thursday 7:30 AM CT November 06,2008 Jobless Claims
    Thursday 7:30 AM CT November 06,2008 Productivity and Costs
    Thursday 9:30 AM CT November 06,2008 EIA Gas Storage
    Friday 7:30 AM CT November 07,2008 Unemployment
    Friday 7:30 AM CT November 07,2008 Wholesale Trade
    Friday 2:00 PM CT November 07,2008 Consumer Installment Credit
    Tuesday 6:45 AM CT November 11,2008 ICSC Weekly Chain Store Sales
    Tuesday 7:40 AM CT November 11,2008 Johnson Redbook Retail Sales Index
    Wednesday 1:00 PM CT November 12,2008 Treasury Statement
    Thursday 7:30 AM CT November 13,2008 Jobless Claims
    Thursday 7:30 AM CT November 13,2008 U.S. Trade Balance
    Thursday 9:30 AM CT November 13,2008 API / EIA Energy Stks
    Friday 7:30 AM CT November 14,2008 Business Inventories
    Friday 7:30 AM CT November 14,2008 Retail Sales
    Friday 9:00 AM CT November 14,2008 University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index - Prelim
    Friday 9:30 AM CT November 14,2008 EIA Gas Storage
    Friday November 14,2008 US Import and Export Prices
    Monday 7:30 AM CT November 17,2008 Empire State Manufacturing Survey
    Monday 8:15 AM CT November 17,2008 Capacity Utilization
    Monday 8:15 AM CT November 17,2008 Industrial Production
    Tuesday 6:45 AM CT November 18,2008 ICSC Weekly Chain Store Sales
    Tuesday 7:30 AM CT November 18,2008 PPI
    Tuesday 7:40 AM CT November 18,2008 Johnson Redbook Retail Sales Index
    Tuesday 12:00 PM CT November 18,2008 NAHB Housing Market Index
    Wednesday 7:30 AM CT November 19,2008 CPI
    Wednesday 7:30 AM CT November 19,2008 Housing Starts and Permits
    Wednesday 7:30 AM CT November 19,2008 Real Earnings
    Wednesday 9:30 AM CT November 19,2008 API / EIA Energy Stks
    Wednesday November 19,2008 FOMC Minutes^
    Thursday 7:30 AM CT November 20,2008 Jobless Claims
    Thursday 9:00 AM CT November 20,2008 Leading Economic Indicators
    Thursday 9:00 AM CT November 20,2008 Philadelphia Fed Survey
    Thursday 9:30 AM CT November 20,2008 EIA Gas Storage
    Monday 7:30 AM CT November 24,2008 Chicago Fed National Activity Index
    Tuesday 6:45 AM CT November 25,2008 ICSC Weekly Chain Store Sales
    Tuesday 7:30 AM CT November 25,2008 GDP (Q3 '08)
    Tuesday 7:40 AM CT November 25,2008 Johnson Redbook Retail Sales Index
    Tuesday 9:00 AM CT November 25,2008 Consumer Confidence
    Tuesday 9:00 AM CT November 25,2008 Richmond Fed Manufacturing Survey
    Tuesday 9:00 AM CT November 25,2008 Richmond Fed Manufacturing Survey
    Wednesday 7:30 AM CT November 26,2008 Advance Durable Goods
    Wednesday 7:30 AM CT November 26,2008 Jobless Claims
    Wednesday 7:30 AM CT November 26,2008 PCE Deflator
    Wednesday 7:30 AM CT November 26,2008 Personal Income
    Wednesday 8:00 AM CT November 26,2008 NAPM - NY
    Wednesday 8:45 AM CT November 26,2008 NAPM Chicago
    Wednesday 9:00 AM CT November 26,2008 Help Wanted Index
    Wednesday 9:00 AM CT November 26,2008 New Home Sales
    Wednesday 9:00 AM CT November 26,2008 University of Michigan Consumer Sentiment Index - Final
    Wednesday 9:30 AM CT November 26,2008 API / EIA Energy Stks
    Wednesday 9:30 AM CT November 26,2008 EIA Gas Storage
    Wednesday 11:00 AM CT November 26,2008 Chicago Fed Midwest Manufacturing Index (CFMMI)

    NOTE: I know most of you wanna get VERY RICH from the Big E. Before you can do that you have to pass 1 of God's Litmus Test. 2 of these tests have have already passed you by(Gold & Wheat). Final Litmus Test is before you(NASDAQ). How much do you want it? If you can't profit from the obvious how do you expect to profit from the inobvious(Big E).

  • At 8:05 PM, Blogger sn said…

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  • At 8:17 PM, Blogger Denny said…



    I don’t feel good about leaving an email address out here but if you ever wanted to post one I would certainly respond. Other than that, if you have any questions about anything I would be more that happy to respond on this website.

    Keep checking out here though, who knows I may change my mind and publish one.

    Here’s my concern. I would hate to think that there may be some “Johnny come lately’s” out here having only heard of a few prophecy’s that did come to pass and all the while I have defended the prophet through thick and through thin for five to seven years maybe more. A lot of people may not realize just how controversial Kim really is.

    Again, I have defended him with all of my heart and will defend him. But if something didn’t take place according to their liking they may tend to vent. I just don’t want an email box full of frustrated people.

    Also, I’m not an investment advisor in anyway. I’m just a person who’s been through the school of hard knocks investment wise, and has learned some things that could really help people out. I just don’t want people getting all hoopie-dupie, gung ho, and then turning negative when prophecies don’t happen to their liking.

    I don’t know what will happen between now and Thanksgiving. Being a person who has read all of Kim’s prophecy’s for the last some seven years I hold some reserve about what is to take place.

    Here’s an example of something that I’m thinking about. A lot of people are expecting something to happen in the markets between now and Thanksgiving. But Kim has also spoken of a “vindication” that happens as a result of “weapons” coming from the soil of China. Can you see how that people may have itching ears (me too) wanting something to happen in the markets when it could be something else?

    People think that things may be sure money but the main prophecy was given in 2005. People like me have been waiting a long time. I just don’t want anybody disappointed so as to turn on the prophet if the time frames don’t pan out. Again, I have been leading the charge for years looking for the big E. Even Kim says that time is hard to determine in prophetic matters. I believe he does the best he can possibly do. I would love for him to be vindicated more than anybody.

    I just want to offset “irrational exuberance” especially when money is on the line. That’s why I say just hold on and watch for now-in terms of the Big E or energy investments (the markets are ripe however now for good explosive growth in general. Don’t anybody miss out in general).

    I may be a little bit more reserved in these things but when I do spot something you’ll be able to trust my judgment more and people won’t be hurt.

    That being said I still have a heart filled with faith that something HUGE is about to break loose. And we're all going to have a BIG part to play in it-if I have my way.

    God Bless.

  • At 8:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I understand how you feel, but Jesus warned us in Matt 20:1-16 that people who come late to the harvest field get the same pay as those who have born the heat of the day.

  • At 3:09 AM, Blogger sn said…

    1 November '08

    Okay. This is just an off the wall kind of thought, but I was talking about the Big E with a friend who doesn't really know what I'm talking about and he asked, "Is the big E the 'E'lection?" Just a thought. The big E the big Election. Will five energy sources spring forth from this election?

    Just a thought...may be way off base but something to think about.

  • At 4:41 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…


    You guys are off the hook and have my blackberry blinking red about five times a day lately.

    Anyway, it inspired me to copy this guys title and create a post myself concerning this "Big E".

    It is: Kim Clement's Big E Prophecy

    Now, you might think that it is wrong and selfish for me to "copy", but if I am going to figure this out and understand it, I am going to have to do it on MY post (just like I did with the YouTube video—Kim Clement on presidential race, the White House and so on—in figuring out who is going to win the presidential election; there was something about having full control of the video that helped me see the truth). It was only though someones comments on that video that I was able to see that it was McCain and Palin that Kim Clement was talking about. I did have to go into the vault to confirm the comment, but in the end, it was a BINGO ALL DAY LONG!

    Of course this is a "voluntary" invitation and in no way guarantees that MY post will be successful, but I need to start somewhere and this post is it.

    God bless ya ALL!!! And happy big E seekin! (That is so cheesy, isn't it?"

    Timothy P. Shields

  • At 5:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "America, look to your Thanksgiving with great joy as you see the STATISTICS change".,%20look%20to%20your%20Thanksgiving%20with%20great%20joy%20as%20you%20see%20the%20statistics%20change.

    This prophecy is referring to the War Statistics. October was the "cherry on the cake" in regards to more peace. Only 5 people died from hostilities in October, the lowest ever.

    Kim Clements' List Of Fruit-Bearing Prophecies:

    1. 2006: Gold Multiplied With Call Options Yielding 87-fold.
    2. 2007: Wheat Quadrupled With Call Options Yielding 40-fold.
    3. 2008: Crude Oil Increased 6-Fold With Call Options Yielding 30-fold.
    4. 2008: Crude Oil Prices Decreased 60% With Put Options Yielding 35-fold. (To put things in perspective, you could've made 30-fold on the Crude Oil Call then turned around and bought a Put increasing your yield to: 1000-fold. Or put another way, a $1,000 investment yielded $1,000,000 from both trades). How many people saw that, much less took advantage of it? He who has(beared fruit), more will be given. Are you a fruit-bearer? If you can't profit from or see these obvious opportunities, how do you expect to see the inobvious(big e)?
    5. 2008: Dollar Strengthed With Dollar Calls Yielding 400%.
    6. 2008/09: NASDAQ, Ford, Big E: HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT IT!

  • At 9:09 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    Here is an interesting article/sector that people may keep their eye on. Apparently Mit has come up with a way of bringing forth unlimited energy from solar. According to this article they are mimicking photosynthesis that comes from a plant. Maybe a “tree” (“look to the tree”)?

    In all of the brainstorming that is done on this website, personally, I think that this is the only one that has short term potential-in terms of investing-into one of the five forms of renewable energy which we think is the “big E” (I’m aware that the big E does seem to be something specific though).

    One might conclude that if this discovery were true then if would create a tremendous demand for solar panels or what ever it is that this technology would demand. I’m not saying that everybody should invest in solar, but maybe it does have potential and is worthy of monitoring.

  • At 12:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    He who has (beared fruit), more(revelation/sight) will be given to him...

    When you inherit one of Kim Clements' prophecies and turn it into a "fruit bearing" prophecy, the Holy Spirit will give you more revelation/sight. I experienced that firsthand when I inherited one of Kims' prophecies. After I inherited one of his prophecies, the Holy Spirit(while speaking in tongues) started pouring out investment ideas like popcorn for about 6-weeks. It would've lasted longer if it wasn't for my "feet dragging" unbelief. ONCE YOU'VE INHERITED(CORRECTLY SEEN) ONE OF KIM CLEMENTS' PROPHECIES, THEN & ONLY THEN ARE YOU QUALIFIED TO INHERIT MORE(THE BIG E). You have to pass the prophetic litmus test before you can SEE the unseen(big e), just like Jeremiah did: "I will multiply. In other words because you have SEEN correctly like Jeremiah, because you have comprehended, I will accelerate My Word to perform it".

    "The LORD said to me, "YOU HAVE SEEN CORRECTLY, for I am watching to see that my word is fulfilled."

    My Prayer: Lord, I pray that these peoples eyes stay blinded until they become FRUIT-BEARERS!
    Let the Wheat Christians be separated from the Tare Christians. Only difference between a Wheat & Tare is that only one of them bears fruit. They both look the same UNTIL Harvest Time.

  • At 1:08 AM, Blogger Denny said…


    Anonymous, I have a challenge for you. Instead of praying that your fellow believers eyes will be blinded, why don’t you stand in agreement with me that ALL of their eyes will be opened?

    I’m not praying that my brothers and sisters out here forever wander in darkness. I want them to excel and enjoy the fruit of the prophetic word along with me.

    Why don’t you just agree with me in faith that all of our eyes will be opened unto all things spiritually? Seriously, you could just help somebody out.

    Your rubbing peoples noses in it does not bode well for your being a very spiritual person.

    Could you please just help out some of your brothers and sisters in the lord? What do you say?

  • At 6:25 PM, Blogger sn said…


    You are assuming that we are not fruit-bearers and you have placed other assumptions in your previous post, too. There are places in Scripture which speak about judging others. All of us on here could very well be 'fruit-bearers,' which is why we might have heard about Kim Clement in the first place and led us searching for answers and even ended up finding this discussion board. What is the point for you to post on this board if you are attempting to keep hidden from those of us who are working TOGETHER to understand the words that have been given by KC? I agree with Denny. Also, in Acts there is the example of people coming together, sharing all that they had with the body of believers -

    Acts 4:32 - All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. 33With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. 34There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.

    and those who withheld, for whatever reason they did....well, it's in Acts about what happened to them...Ananias and Sapphira, Acts 5:2.

    My question to you is, 'By what spirit are you participating in this discussion board?' The example in Acts has been ever prevalent and apparent on here, so far, regarding people freely giving to each other to help the body of believers. God freely gives to us and those who have been participating, so far, have freely given what they know or they just don't bother posting.

    Also, I looked for the word, 'litmus' in the Bible. Funny thing, I haven't been able to find that word anywhere in Scripture. Do you even know what that means? Litmus?

    I strongly question where you're coming from, Anonymous, and I personally prefer not to be teased by someone who either does or really doesn't have the answers he/she claims to have.

  • At 9:56 PM, Blogger Daniel said…


  • At 9:57 PM, Blogger Daniel said…


  • At 11:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Big E Litmus Test:

    A litmus test is a test in which a SINGLE FACTOR is decisive in proving the presence or absence of something(Fruit-Bearing). In this case, the presence of FRUIT from Kim Clements' SEEN prophecies(i.e. crude oil, gold, wheat, nasdaq & dollar, etc.) before moving onto the UNSEEN Level(i.e. Big E). You can Believe the Prophet in ACTION & DEEDS(bearing fruit) or watch & wander(tares). There are 3 types of Christians: 1. Ones that make things happen(Fruit-Bearers); 2. Ones that watch & wait for things to happen(Tares - i.e. There's a so-called christian blog calling themselves the WATCHtower for the Big E. That's all they're doing - WATCHING); 3. One's that wonder what's going on(Dross). Which one are you? I'm only posting this because it's almost time to bear fruit from the NASDAQ & Ford prophecies. THEN the Big E will appear to those who've SEEN correctly(i.e. fruit-bearers).

    "America, look to your Thanksgiving with great joy as you see the STATISTICS change".,%20look%20to%20your%20Thanksgiving%20with%20great%20joy%20as%20you%20see%20the%20statistics%20change.

    Rush of economic data likely to shape week
    Sunday November 2, 6:51 pm ET
    By Tim Paradis, AP Business Writer

    Strong end to October leaves markets hopeful though pressing economic questions remain

  • At 12:08 AM, Blogger sn said…

    My question to you, Anonymous, is: In what way do you plan to participate on this discussion board? Are you here just to challenge us or to help those of us who have been believing, researching, praying and preparing for the Lord's blessing? You have been providing references back to Kim Clement's vault regarding your statements but this board was created to discover and help each other regarding the Big E.

    If you were the anonymous that posted regarding those coming late to the harvest receiving the same wage, I appreciate it. If it wasn't you, than it is appreciated whomever did leave that comment.

    If you are here to help in the same way that others on here have been, with actual facts, stock symbols, references to the possible sources of energy, etc. then it would be in the same aspect as everyone else working together to provide something that "No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had." (Acts 4:32). It would seem, that is a mark of a true believer and wouldn't that be a litmus test for you? Can you say you have passed that litmus test if you are willing to withhold that which really doesn't belong to you alone, as in Acts 4:32?

    Isn't it God, alone, who will separate the wheat from the tares on judgment day? Why are you acting as God?

    If you are attempting to prove to us that Kim Clement's words are valid by showing us proof of statistics, we are here on the board because we believe there is something there.

    Please read Acts 4 and consider if you're actions are reflecting those of the Christians in the Scripture.

  • At 12:11 AM, Blogger sn said…


    Dear one, Anonymous:

    Has Kim Clement ever mentioned something about a 'Litmus' test in any of his words? I don't know but was wondering where in Kim's words or God's words you can back-up your reasons for withholding.

  • At 1:41 AM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…


    To all,

    I wonder if anonymous is onto something... I am to tired to really figure it out at the moment, but having everyone all up in arms has caught my attention.

  • At 2:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…


    i am not the anonymous that posted the earlier comments but i think i understand what he is saying, and i am sure he will correct me if i am wrong... i agree with what he is saying in that the seperating out comes from our choice to take action or not when we hear the voice of God and respond... years ago while traveling doing tent revival meetings, i asked a mentor of mine about the scripture, "many are called but few are chosen."... and he promptly asked me if i knew who the chosen ones were... after thinking for a moment, hoping with my whole heart that i would be among the chosen, but acknowledging that i didn't know the answer as to who the chosen ones were, He told me simply,... "those who go.".. and there was the revelation... so simple yet profound...

    God is always speaking to us, and directng our paths, but often times we either aren't listening or are too preocupied with our own plans and such that we don't hear and even moreover we don't respond even if we do hear... i believe simply that anonymous is saying listen and respond to the voice of God and bear fruit...

    One time years ago when i was a baby Christian, the Lord spoke to me so loud that everything around me shook... it was a personal message of profound influence in my life... it shook me to my core, and i remember wondering at first in a fearful way, wow, is this how it's gonna be... God speaks so loudly that it shakes my world to the core every time ... i have to admit i was a little aprehensive about having those type of experiences with the Lord on a regular basis... But as time went by i found myself praying, Lord speak to me like you did that one time. well one night when i prayed Lord why don't you talk to me like that all the time, he said,"because it would kill you.".. and with that i knew what he meant... that it would devistate us if we heard His voice so loud, as to where we would have no doubt about His will for us all the time, because we wouldn't be able to always do as He asks, and we would never be able to live with the guilt of constant failure in the flesh by way of disobedience...

    another time after reading about the Azuza street and Welsh revivals, i remember praying Lord i want to be like Smith Wigglesworth... and the Lord told me three times on the way home, "are you willing to pay the price." after thinking about the Lords words, i had to in honesty reply... " i will have to think about it." having obviously made the wrong decision, it has taken me many years to come to a place here i am willing to give it all, and pay the price.... don't be a procrastinator like me... prepare yourself to say yes and to act when the Lord speaks, and you will go from glory to glory....

    i hope what i have said shines a little light on this seperating the wheat from the shaff... if you wish to be a fruit bearer you must respond to the voice of God, willing to give everything, and willing to be selfless and ready to act...

    i admit i do not pray as much as i should, i don't read the word as much as i should, and i don't yield to the Holy Spirit as much as i should... and i pray the Lord would break me and make me... having said that however, everything i have belongs to the Lord and is for the vision God has given my for my part in ushering in His Kingdom... therefore i will listen to the man of God... and place my trust in the Lord....

    there is only one place in Scripture where God says, "test me in this one thing." and it is in the fulfillment of this very Scripture for this very moment in time that He is speaking of... the Lord says, "Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed me! but you say, "in what way have we robbed you?" In tithes and offerings. You are cursed with a curse, for you have robbed me, Even this whole nation. Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house." And try me now in this," says the Lord of hosts, "if i will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such a blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it."

    in these last days, God must fulfill His Word to all who will follow and respond... The wealth of the righteous is stored up in the storehouses of the unrighteous, and God is turning the tables of the money changers.... He is exposing the corruption on wall street, in the banking system and in the government, and we are to emerge and take our rightful place as the chosen and entrusted of God to take dominion once more of this earth and the fullness therin... i am paraphrasing but all of creation is perishing or in a state of corruption and in pain as a woman in childbirth.. waiting for the sons of God to be revieled.... i pray that the Lord would search our hearts and prepare us to endure the sufferings and the victory of these trying times, because to whom much is given much is expected....

    forgive me if i was rambling a bit, but i hope this made sense to you because this is what i believe God is preparing us for... He is always looking for faithful men who will hear His voice and obey for the sake of the Kingdom... God bless you all... in Christ... marty....

    ps.. the Lord has spoken loud and clear... FORD... and Nasdaq... as kGod for the confirmation and act accordingly....

  • At 11:45 AM, Blogger Denny said…


    I’m going to try to be objective with anonymous. I am aware that Jesus said, “There is nothing hid which shall not be manifest”. The context in which this comes forth is surrounded by three parables concerning the planting of seeds in soil. Of course the seeds that he is talking about is the Word of God and the soil is the heart of a man. So then, in essence Jesus is saying there is nothing hidden and kept secret in the heart of man that will not be manifest and come to light. So then “hidden” and “kept secret” are metaphors for something being planted within or occupying our hearts.

    However Jesus said, “no man lights a candle and hides it under a bushel or under a bed, but sets in on a candle stick that it might give light unto all that are in the house”. I realize that there is a time when we harbor the word of Gods promise in our hearts by faith awaiting the manifestation of that which is hidden. But once it is manifest or revealed is it not meant to be delivered for public disclosure?

    Jesus said that which I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in the light. The things which you hear in the ear, that proclaim from the housetop. I just don’t understand all of this secrecy for secrecy sake. Jesus said in John nobody wanting to be a man of God does things in darkness. They do it in the daylight and in the presence of man so that all can see that their works are of God.

    Honestly anonymous, I forgive you for praying that we be blinded. Enough said about that. But I just can’t understand how that keeping things secret from your fellow believers translates to anything spiritual.

    Jesus said “the light of the body is the eye if your eye be single your whole body will be filled with light”. All that he is saying is that when we see or perceive something with the eyes of our spirits, we call that thing into existence or resplend that thing out into the eyes of others. It becomes manifest. But it happens by our seeing it spiritually first. Then why pray for our blindness?

    Where you derive the cryptic secrecy from is beyond me. If you regret saying it that’s fine by me. No biggy (big E?-hope you liked that). But if your holding fast some Gnostic belief, well I have not a clue where you’re coming from nor do I feel that you’re right. Again, I forgive you. No big deal.

    Now, hears something else. You use the word NASDAQ as though it’s a company and not a title for some 500-technology stocks. Are you saying that we can invest in any of them? Are all of them bound to go up? Or would that be presumptive?

    At least some people are recommending the QQQQ stock, which is a fund of several NASDAQ stocks. But the way you put that, forgive me, but I wonder if you know what your talking about. But then your cryptic ness casts a pawl on your writings. Maybe your one of the ones who has recommended the Q stock. But when everybody is “anonymous” out hear how is anybody to know?

    I’m still listening and not outright dismissing you. But the hiding of things after they’ve been revealed, I’m sorry; you can’t find that in scripture. Not in that way.

    God bless.

  • At 1:37 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    Timothy, thank you for touching bases with us. You go back to sleep dude! We'll handle it from here:)

  • At 1:39 PM, Blogger sn said…

    I appreciate the people who are working on interpreting what Anonymous meant when he spoke about fruit-bearers. The anonymous who wrote about responding to the call--that makes sense. However, my issue with Anon is not with bearing fruit and responding when being called. My issue is the fact that there is an assumption that we, on the discussion site, are not fruit-bearers. Therefore, we have not been given insight as anonymous says he has been given, regarding what the Big E is and he is going to withhold from us the information that he says he has been given by God, because we are not deserving. To even state that, as a tease almost, is, in my opinion, to act indifferently and in opposition to the example set by the believers in Acts 4:32.

    That part doesn’t make sense, to me. The rest of what he said about bearing fruit with what we’re given and responding to the things we believe are from the Lord, is an absolute given! Personally, I hold shares of Ford stock right now and waited until they were at a low.

    I believe that God has put a very strong vision and desire in my heart for a ministry and even while this was taking root and growing in my heart, the Lord put the same desires in the heart of a very dear friend whom I had not spoken with for years. I have even ‘responded’ to this call by moving 2500 miles away to be closer to my friend, so that we could take the next steps in moving forward. To withhold information from us on this discussion board, because there is an assumption that we are not fruit-bearers, brings me great concern for Anonymous’ reasons for even posting on this discussion board. Please, don’t tease the willing and ready. This does not feel as though it is from the Lord, especially for those of us who are so willing to participate and provide any information we are able to find.

    Again, it is the Lord who will separate the wheat from the tares. Matthew 13:24-30 gives us an example of wheat and tares being together. If the farmer had decided to withhold water from the crop just because there were tares in the field, the wheat would have died, too.

    24Jesus told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
    27"The owner's servants came to him and said, 'Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?'
    28" 'An enemy did this,' he replied.
    "The servants asked him, 'Do you want us to go and pull them up?'
    29" 'No,' he answered, 'because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.' "
    Anonymous, I don’t want it to seem that I’m not wanting you to post on this site, but please don’t tease us. My challenge to you is to search your heart and to see if you are behaving as the Christians in Acts 4:32 behaved towards each other. To possibly bring frustration, confusion and judgment to this board by withholding; what kind of fruit is that bearing? Another thought came to me is, what if Kim Clement withheld information because there were tares amongst the wheat. So, he would deprive the wheat because of the tares? It does not appear so….just something to think about.

    God bless you and may the Lord bless us all!

    P.S. Denny, I read your post after writing the above. We're in agreement and thank you. Maybe, those of us who are willing, could arrange a set time to pray regarding the Big E. Just a thought. Some of us are probably in different time zones but maybe we could arrange something where we are all praying at the same time. Anyone willing, maybe you can post the days and times, along with time zone, that you have available and we could arrange a time of prayer...even if it's for 10 minutes? But, however the Lord might lead. Take care and blessings!

  • At 1:41 PM, Blogger Denny said…

    Timothy, dish is da Lord. Shleep, shleep Timothy. Much, much tired. So many many woosy!:)

  • At 1:48 PM, Blogger sn said…

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  • At 1:57 PM, Blogger sn said…

    Okay, confession. Wow, Denny! My confession is that i only brushed lightly on what you wrote but I just got done reading, thoroughly, your entire post and and amen!! Well said and well put. God is bigger than anonymous and he is able to provide for us what we need, even abundantly more than we need. If anonymous would like to share his insight, we're more than willing to listen and discern. I forgot the part about praying for blindness. KC prayed last night that the eyes of America's enemies would be blinded but I believe that is in a different context.

    Thank you, Denny, for putting things so eloquently. I'm not giving up on this and will continue to search and pray for understanding. Take care, all!

  • At 2:04 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    All kidding aside,I agree with you whole-heartedly SN. To me it’s mean spirited. That being said I don’t want him/her thinking that I’m scolding them.

    But as for me I'm willing to let it go. They made a mistake. Kind of reminds me of someone.

    In terms of praying, I'm in prayer non-stop about this thing. The moment that I get something that can help somebody out; I assure you I won't say, "OPE! It's hidden". You guys will be the first to know:)

  • At 2:38 PM, Blogger Amos said…

    Thanks Denny.

    God did say he'll make us go all the way with this one, and that's one of the reason it's proved to be so illusive coz that was his intention from the start. Remember this is something meant only for the righteous and obviously God doesn't want to make it too easy for the unrighteous to figure out as well.

  • At 2:40 PM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…


    Hey Denny,

    Something strange just happened a few minutes ago. I was looking on my phone and saw that you left a couple messages for me here. When I went to go read them, I actually blushed in emabrasment... Ha ha, and I don't even know you, how is that possible? It is impossible for that to have just happened. Congratulations Denny, you have just done the impossible.

    Anyway...... After thinking about your comments that where directed to me, for a moment, I thought I would post a dream (that I recorded) that I had after I posted my 4:41 AM - 11.1.08 message:

    12:30pm Saturday, November 1, 2008

    I had a MIGHTY dream last night. I had a dream that I had learned a secret and because I knew it/learned it, I was going to be given a GREAT and valuable reward for it. Almost like I found something that had a reward for being found if turned in. It was a lot of money too, about $10,000 to $100,000, I can't quite remember how much it was or how much the reward was worth for knowing it and sharing it. All I know is that the secret that I learned was worth a lot, maybe millions. The way I learned it was by chance, being at the right place at the right time. I actually overheard someone saying it to someone else and they had no idea I was listening or could hear them (if they would have known, they never would have spoke it as they both knew how valuable the secret was and it was like an elevator door was closing and they barley knew I heard it and the boss who said it was very angry with his subordinate that I heard) as I was hidden in an elevator kind of on the inside to the left of the door.

    So ya, whatever that dream means, it means. I just figured I would post it and if anyone get anything out of it, so be it.

  • At 3:08 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    Timothy, Wow that’s pretty cool. Your dream has so many Kingdom overtones. It’s like the guy who found the treasure hid in the field, what did he do? He reburied it (“hid it”), then went out and sold all that he had in order to posses that treasure.

    I’m joining my faith with yours that it’s going to happen. You’ll discover a great secret accidentally-when you least expect it. And the dark boss will be angry-oh well, too bad.

    Thanks for getting my stupid sense of humor. I’m just trying to keep things light out here. I don’t want to come across Jezeblic or mean. If people feel that way then they don’t want to share.

    Everybody freely share is my motto.

    Have a good-un!

  • At 3:58 PM, Blogger Timothy Shields said…


    Hey Denny,

    I hate to go back there (the presidential race), but last night I DID actually find something (in the vault), though I can't imagine that it has anything to do with the dream.

    March 5, 2002 - TBN Broadcast

    "The Spirit of the Lord says, The very words of Dr. Martin Luther King before he died, knowing prophetically that he would not live, there is a dream that has not yet been fulfilled. You say the African people have been freed. But have they truly been freed� says the Lord. That dream has not yet been fulfilled. It shall come to pass that I will take the African-American race, the people that have a strong leaning towards a spiritual life, and I will do something special for them because I have told you I will raise up an African-American president of the United States of America. I will put within him the wisdom of God and the power to be able to negotiate and take this nation into a higher level of authority and power."

    As I posted on my blog, this prophecy seems to have come forth long before Obama came on the scene and (honestly to me) does not seem to coincide with all the "recent" prophecies regarding this presidential race. My only guess is that maybe it is referring to someone other then Obama in the future... However, it has seriously made me question if the color red is really red if you know what I mean...

  • At 6:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Just When You Thought It Was Safe To Be A Hearer Only...

    More Prophetic Pearls To Ponder:

    $1,000 INVESTMENT IN DECEMBER 2005 YIELDED $45,675,000 BY OCTOBER 2008 BASED ON KIM CLEMENT PROPHECIES, USING COMMODITY/STOCK CHARTS TO TIME YOUR ENTRY/EXIT POINTS. Wasn't 2005 the same time this blog was started? While you've been watching, waiting & hearing the Big E Prophecy, other Kim Clement prophecies have already been bearing fruit. This kinda reminds me of the Jews waiting & watching for the Messiah to come, when he's already come and went 2000 years ago. IF YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT'S ALREADY IN FRONT OF YOU, HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S UNSEEN LIKE THE BIG E! Okay, here's how you coulda done it: Using a commodity chart and applying Kims' Crude Oil, NASDAQ, Gold & Wheat prophecies, you would've concluded that Gold was the first one to bear fruit. 2006: $1,000 - Gold Calls yield $87,000 by Summer 2006; 2007: $87,000 - Wheat Calls yield $1,305,000 by Winter 2008; 2008: $1,305,000 -Crude Oil Puts yield $45,675,000 by Fall 2008. BONUS: 2004-08: Crude Oil Calls rolled over would've yielded 10,20,30-fold; 2008: Dollar Calls are strengthening per prophecy, yielding 400% so far. Of course, you can't just go out and buy/sell when the prophecy is given. You have to use some wisdom and be led by the Holy Spirit. As you step out by faith, more is revealed to you. When I acted on my first fruit-bearing prophecy, that's when the Holy Spirit started revealing stuff, including the Big E. 2008/09: NASDAQ, Ford Calls yield 1000 fold. BIG E WILL ONLY BE REVEALED TO THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN CORRECTLY(FRUIT-BEARERS/DOERS OF PROPHECY).

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  • At 8:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    What Do You SEE?

    OPPORTUNITYISNOWHERE. Most baby christians see "opportunity is nowhere". However, if you saw "Opportunity Is Now Here", you've SEEN correctly.

    Turn a hummingbird and a vulture loose in a desert and they'll both find what they're looking for.

    whenyoureadtheabovefruitbearing experiencesdidyousee selfrighteousnessordidyousee sllacqadsanyubbackwards...

  • At 1:56 AM, Blogger sn said…

    Hallelujah! A huge light bulb just went on regarding trading options. I've been searching and searching the internet in an attempt to understand what that actually means. It's still a little fresh, so I am going to work on grasping it but I can understand the Ford call option. I will be working on understanding NASDAQ and put options. Thank you, Denny, for your earlier information regarding this subject of options.

  • At 3:18 AM, Blogger Amos said…

    4 November 2008

    For more information on Nasdaq or the QQQQ options you can go to Just type in the words in the search box and you're good to go.

  • At 2:24 PM, Blogger Denny said…


    Anonymous, once again I’m going to disagree with you. I find your last post very misleading. Hey, if you’ve capitalized on those trades to the degree that you claim your just a fabulous investor. KUDO’S TO YOU! But there is nothing in what you’ve said that would benefit the average investor that Kim is prophesying to.

    If your telling me that Kim, in his prophecies’ was saying to invest in wheat than I think that you’re sadly mistaken. And oil? Come on, everything that Kim has prophesied is in relation to an unhealthy dependence upon foreign suppliers. To say that you could accurately predict that oil would skyrocket and thereby prosper your long call options as per what Kim said, than I just think that your blowing smoke at us. Also, you refer to buying put contracts as oil is falling. Is that really a part of the spirit of what Kim is saying? For those who don’t know, a “put” is that same thing that a “call option” is but in reverse. It’s placing a bet believing that the price, in this case oil, will go down. Is that really what Kim is saying? What about being “fed by the raven” for too long?

    Are you really saying that the spirit of Kim’s prophecies would support the buying of puts as the markets fall? If you’ve really done that then you’re just a savvy investor and the prophetic word has nothing to do with it. Bravo! You’ve done a good job as a worldly investor.

    The problem is that the average investor can’t invest the way that you’re talking about. The spirit of Kim’s’ prophecies support that the average person with the basic inclining to act on the word of his prophesies’ will be tremendously blessed.


    Were still waiting. You’re just a good worldy investor. There is nothing wrong with that. Also, I’m not calling it evil to buy put contracts when oil is falling. But these people can’t do that. Ok, they can, but when? Do you really expect them to call the markets ups and down in that fashion? It’s not going to happen.

    I want to make you aware that all that you are doing is pouring salt in the wounds of people who are more then willing to act on the prophecy’s per knowing what to do. But there hasn’t been any go ahead. If your saying that there is, and has been a go ahead to act on something that is a sure deal, well I think that that’s as speculative as all get out.

    Again, I think that your blowing smoke up…at Gods wonderful people.

    Anybody reading this listen to ME.

    This guy is toying with your head. He’s working with the adversary to make you feel like crap. I’ve known it from his first post. Many of you have as well.

    OK, Mr. Prophetic. You tell us right now going forward where a person can put their money which will assure them not just growth, but the explosive growth that Kim is alluding to in his prophecies. I’m going to sit here and wait for some tickers symbols.

    I too could come out here and give you some speculative buys. Would you like one? LDK solar has pre-announced better then expected earnings. They report earning on/about the llth of November. It’s a short-term possibility. But I will tell you right now that there isn’t anything sure about it. And that’s my take. It has nothing to do with Kim’s prophecies except in a very loose overall way, and then it’s just my opinion.

    I’m waiting for some ticker symbols from you.

    In Isaiah, there is a scripture that reads (paraphrased) “speak of the things that are to come hereafter that we my marvel and be amazed”. The idea is that if you’re a man of God-which I seriously question- then tell us something that is about to be proved right. No more looking in the rear view mirror saying if you would have invested at this time and sold at this time you would have made money. Bologny! Hind site is twenty-twenty. I could say the same thing. That wouldn’t make me a man of God.

    If you don’t come up with some ticker symbols, then your blowing smoke. My advice would be to stop playing with Gods children in that way.

    The prophetic word is ABOUT TO COME TO PASS. Anything up to this point has only been speculation.

    God bless.

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